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beta678 June 6th, 2014 21:21

Are there any plans on incorporating a functional bolt catch/lock later down the road? Perhaps something similar to KWA's ERG bolt lock mechanism?

SuperHog June 6th, 2014 22:00

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Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 1893856)
Tippmann M4 HPA/CO2 Blowback - Internals! - (Part 2) - Airsoft GI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkHUwNBjaaI

What happened to Matt's special videos. ASGI beat him to making the internals video.

Crossfire034 June 6th, 2014 23:19

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Originally Posted by R&D Engineer (Post 1893889)
It takes standard AEG buckings and adjusts with a hex key.

Oh, sweet! Works like my GBB pistol then, should be pretty hard for the unit to adjust on its own. Guess I know what I'm doing with my spare tightbore and bucking. :D

Matt 'Maverick' Watts June 7th, 2014 08:41

The videos made during my trip to Chicago are in the hands of others. Unfortunately, I have no control over when Tippmann will release them post-editing.

dartguy43 June 7th, 2014 11:34

I used to play a lot of paintball and can tell you that Tippmann was one of the best companies for customer service and durability. The m4 they are producing uses internals based off of their 98 custom paintball marker. This was probably the most widely used and most durable paintball guns ever. From what I have read the velocity and rate of fire can be adjusted by turning screws on the inside of the gun (controlling the amount of air flowing through the valve). From what I have read the velocity will be adjustable from 250 to 400 fps. This would make the m4 good for both indoor and outdoor games. The rate of fire can be adjusted from 8 to 20 rps. The co2 mags will hold 80-85 rounds which means you can get a whole mag off of a 12 gram co2. The HPA remote attachment is a nice touch for people who want to use AEG m4 mags of any capacity. I have always wanted a GBB rifle but didn't want to drop too much money on it this might be the best alternative for people with HPA tanks left over from paintball.

SuperHog June 7th, 2014 11:59

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Well Dartguy43, I am sure Tippmann is still doing final tweaks to the final production M4's . We will see in the near future if Tippmann can actually get it right the first time.

As for the Tippmann 98, it was popular only because it was a entry beginner gun, aimed at the mass market sold in sporting stores and walmart. It was also the most popular rental gun at fields, but.....its competitor Spyder was actually a better gun by far.

As for the Tippman M4, for players that like to run low caps have to sacrifice a CO2 cartridge each time they reload. Lets hope Tippmann puts in a real regulator in the final production guns. I don't think the CO2 thing is going to take off as HPA is the better route and a real internal reg is needed over a restrictor that cost pennies to stick in.

If Tippmann want to get innovative, for airsoft, most players don't like the remote set up other companies have chosen. I would like to see Tippmann come out with an option on-gun tank set up like this.

Other paintball gun makers could also could make airsoft guns so Tippmann has one crack at it!

R&D Engineer June 8th, 2014 18:56

There is no regulator in the gun. The valve operates ideally at 850psi, the vapor pressure of CO2 at room temp, or the output of most HPA tanks. The valve can function across the range of 1800psi to 300psi.

SuperHog June 8th, 2014 22:19

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Originally Posted by R&D Engineer (Post 1894210)
There is no regulator in the gun. The valve operates ideally at 850psi, the vapor pressure of CO2 at room temp, or the output of most HPA tanks. The valve can function across the range of 1800psi to 300psi.

So what happens to velocity consistency as the pressure keeps on dropping below 850psi when using HPA? Can the Tippmann M4 even run with a Polarstar reg at 100psi? If it can't , then obviously the Polarstar and Wolverine are still the higher end system.

On both the Polarstar and Wolverine, you can run deep into the HPA tank until it falls below 100psi. At 850ps, you are wasting air with a Tippmann.

BioRage June 8th, 2014 22:56

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Originally Posted by beta678 (Post 1893893)
Are there any plans on incorporating a functional bolt catch/lock later down the road? Perhaps something similar to KWA's ERG bolt lock mechanism?

No, but the Daytona M4's can do it. :P

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Originally Posted by SuperHog (Post 1894259)
On both the Polarstar and Wolverine, you can run deep into the HPA tank until it falls below 100psi. At 850ps, you are wasting air with a Tippmann.

Currently P* is running at 60 PSI, my Daytona M4 was running around 80-100 PSI.

SuperHog June 8th, 2014 23:09

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Originally Posted by BioRage (Post 1894266)
No, but the Daytona M4's can do it. :P



Currently P* is running at 60 PSI, my Daytona M4 was running around 80-100 PSI.

100psi and below is excellent.

Aj619 June 9th, 2014 03:13

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Originally Posted by SuperHog (Post 1894259)
So what happens to velocity consistency as the pressure keeps on dropping below 850psi when using HPA? Can the Tippmann M4 even run with a Polarstar reg at 100psi? If it can't , then obviously the Polarstar and Wolverine are still the higher end system.

On both the Polarstar and Wolverine, you can run deep into the HPA tank until it falls below 100psi. At 850ps, you are wasting air with a Tippmann.

Honestly you will be wasting air however the gun maybe compatible with paintball regs such as CP regs.

Meaning instead of using a $200 regulator and remote line set up you are using a $62 reg which you can easily maintain yourself.

also PSI isn't the only factor in efficiency volume of air has a lot to do with with it as well.

SuperHog June 9th, 2014 09:33

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Originally Posted by Aj619 (Post 1894287)
Honestly you will be wasting air however the gun maybe compatible with paintball regs such as CP regs.

Meaning instead of using a $200 regulator and remote line set up you are using a $62 reg which you can easily maintain yourself.

also PSI isn't the only factor in efficiency volume of air has a lot to do with with it as well.


I disagree. Polarstar and Wolverine is better engineered to operate at 100psi and lower and all CNC machined.

pot metal internals, 850psi and no regualation is old, old, old paintball blow back technology for CO2. In paintball, all tourney guns operate well below 200psi. That is why Tippmann 98 was stuck in the rental gun business.

You have to be gullible to believe 850psi is just fine for operating pressure. All of my paintball guns will not run CO2 and are only HPA operating under 200psi.

For your info, blow back guns are not efficient. They also fart when the pressure drops and they can not recock anymore.

Danke June 9th, 2014 10:32

How do you guys run your Polarstars with no airline?



Ohhhhhhh, you can't do that.

R.I.T.Z June 9th, 2014 17:37

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Originally Posted by Mcbain500 (Post 1894380)
Oh wait yes we can run without an airline check it out.

you mean this?
http://www.redlineairsoft.com/index....e-airstock-kit
http://www.redlineairsoft.com/media/...d/1d3_9256.jpg
http://www.redlineairsoft.com/media/...airstock-2.jpg

Danke June 9th, 2014 18:19

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Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 1894425)
you mean this?

Wow; is that some kind of Navy SEAL setup so you can breath underwater?

I can't help but imagine the tank in red and then with the big tank and the dials it would look like an extinguisher bottle. Then you could imagine you were a tactical fireman!

Is there a hopper option?


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