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Rusty Lugnuts February 6th, 2013 10:24

I wonder how the survey would look if Don't use sights was an option
Assuming people would answer honestly

talon February 6th, 2013 10:33

i like EOTech, but I haven't used a real aimpoint at all, so I can't really say with much authority. Eotech is awesome, simply because it is very simple , and I like having the extra points of reference on the ring. I also like that I can mount it wherever I want, and as long as you can see part of it, it'll be on target, and visible.

Stealth February 6th, 2013 10:41

I've been using Aimpoints (real and clone) for almost 10 years now. I really wanted to like the Eotech, so much so that I went out and bought a real one, but when I went out to try to use it, I hated the distracting ring and large dot.

I can see it being very useful in CQB environments where you don't really need the precision of the dot.

tygr701 February 6th, 2013 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingManiac (Post 1756945)
Real Aimpoint it'll still be on after 5 years...

Why do I care if its on for 5 years? I just use rechargeable AA's it only needs to last me a 24 hour milsim or a day shooting at the range and that's all I care about. Do you need it to last you a whole deployment? Go for the Trijicon SRS it has a solar panel...

Stealth February 6th, 2013 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by tygr701 (Post 1757008)
Why do I care if its on for 5 years? I just use rechargeable AA's it only needs to last me a 24 hour milsim or a day shooting at the range and that's all I care about. Do you need it to last you a whole deployment? Go for the Trijicon SRS it has a solar panel...

It's just a feature that the other optics don't have, and something that you don't have to do before/after every game.

Danke February 6th, 2013 11:01

Clones = Aimpoint
Real = EOTech
AK/Pistol/SAW/MP5 = Irons

m102404 February 6th, 2013 12:11

For all clone stuff

Favourite...irons
2nd...Aimpoint T1
3rd...Aimpoint M3/4

Too many iffy experiences with ghosting/not-consistent adjusted/shaken to death EOtech's. They look cooler though...

If I had money to spend on one real RDS...Micro T1

Derpystronk February 6th, 2013 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShelledPants (Post 1756965)
But Eotech has L3 Warrior behind them... and if you mean as a company, I would take all of the goodies at L3 Warrior over every single product at Aimpoint.

Look at you trying to sneak off with a GPNVG...

Why must you attempt to break my thread?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Lugnuts (Post 1756989)
I wonder how the survey would look if Don't use sights was an option
Assuming people would answer honestly

Or they might not answer at all. I'm just attributing iron sights to the people who don't use optics at all, or maybe use a different brand of optic.

It's all useful information.

RacingManiac February 6th, 2013 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by tygr701 (Post 1757008)
Why do I care if its on for 5 years? I just use rechargeable AA's it only needs to last me a 24 hour milsim or a day shooting at the range and that's all I care about. Do you need it to last you a whole deployment? Go for the Trijicon SRS it has a solar panel...

They are not selling it to airsofter, they are selling it to RS shooter. The idea is you don't have to ever turn it off. For a defense gun you just pick it up and its there, and for soldier its one less thing to worry about in the field...And a T1 is still $400+ cheaper than a SRS....

c3sk February 6th, 2013 18:49

No sights! Hipfire like a douchebag in the dark!

I've used Elcans, Docters, Trijicon's, Eotech's, Aimpoints and a shortdot.

Aimpoint vs Eotech,

Eotech wins. It has a 1moa dot and a 65moa ring vs a 2moa dot provided by Aimpoint (T1 Micro). That may not mean much for airsoft, but it apparently means a lot when you're killing things between 0-600 meters.

I Love the Aimpoint T1, it's light, durable and really sexy. However considering it is just an RDS, and not a holographic sight - the holographic sight will always be a more efficient class of product.

RacingManiac February 6th, 2013 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by c3sk (Post 1757332)
the holographic sight will always be a more efficient class of product.


Aside from different reticle design, how do you arrive at that conclusion? They work in basically the same fashion(to end user, not how the actual sight function), both are parallax free...I've read Eotech is brighter(as in the view is not tinted), but a 30mm Aimpoint(as in not T1) are pretty damn bright(T1 being smaller, looks darker), this is coming from using RS T1 and ML3.

I can see a 1MOA center will be better relatively to a 2-4 MOA dot that Aimpoint typically comes with. But at 600 meters, you are still looking at 6". Not exactly a precision shot(well its still twice as good as a 2MOA)...Hitting a 600m target on a non-magnified optic is going to be a difficult challenge anyway....

Ninja_En_Short February 6th, 2013 19:39

Love the Aimpoint CompM4S, takes AA batteries aka "the one find everywhere".
If I want to do range I just slap a magnifier on FTS mount.

The T1 I don't like very much, too narrow for my taste.

chaosrealm93 February 6th, 2013 19:44

Aimotech. Eopoint.

c3sk February 6th, 2013 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingManiac (Post 1757355)
Aside from different reticle design, how do you arrive at that conclusion? They work in basically the same fashion(to end user, not how the actual sight function), both are parallax free...I've read Eotech is brighter(as in the view is not tinted), but a 30mm Aimpoint(as in not T1) are pretty damn bright(T1 being smaller, looks darker), this is coming from using RS T1 and ML3.

I can see a 1MOA center will be better relatively to a 2-4 MOA dot that Aimpoint typically comes with. But at 600 meters, you are still looking at 6". Not exactly a precision shot(well its still twice as good as a 2MOA)...Hitting a 600m target on a non-magnified optic is going to be a difficult challenge anyway....

I totally agree. Personally I really like T1's. The reason why Aimpoint did not win the socom contract was because the MOA fell short. For you and I this isn't really a big issue, but I guess to the special operations community it was enough to favour the slightly heavier doughnut of death over the dot of destruction. I find I get a better sight picture with a T1, however because of the 65moa ring to 1moa dot, the holographic point seems faster for target acquisition.

I was saddened to see the T1's not getting the military exposure they deserve, as it is a brilliant optic. Considering how hard those guys run their gear, and the operational tempo they maintain, there were probably many other reasons to pick one over the other.

AngelusNex February 6th, 2013 19:53

I preffer clone aimpoints over clone eotechs due to the fact that clone aimpoints are at least using the same system that the design is for where clone eotechs are traditional redot sights crammed in a holo sight shell.

In the end, for airsoft I tend to only use redots when playing in low light as I have bad eyes and can't pick up magnified optics or iron sights without light. During daylight however, Iron sights are just as fast for me as reflex sights are.


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