I think you saw someone on your lawn.

I completely disagree with placing some intrinsic value on a stock unopened gearbox. They aren't assembled by pixies using magic... All things being equal, the fewer bb's through a gun the more value it has, but a stock gun =/= well upgraded gun. Quality parts that will last tens & tens of thousands of rounds don't become moot after one shot. The used car analogy only applies if we're talking about the exact same car.

We know that even the best brands have certain parts that are prone to failure in their stock gearboxes. Replacing those parts (competently, with better quality parts) ads reliability, longevity, and sometimes added performance to boot, that's added value. And if the work is something you can't do yourself, there's value in that too. A gearbox with 'weak link' parts replaced, AOE corrected and good shimming/lubing is going to be more reliable (even with 10k+ BB's through it) than a new gearbox with 'weak link' parts still inside. Likewise a hop-up that has been flat hopped is going to shoot better than a stock hop-up, added value.

It's a case by case basis and you need to do your homework on the gun you're buying.

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Course there's re-sale value on my Siegetek gears and BTC Spectre.

I have a KC02. I have stuffed approximately 300$ worth of parts into it, Custom modded a real steel stock on it ect.

Would I sell it for what I bought it for? No. My time and upgrades are 100% worth money.

I recently purchased a "parts" gun that has been stripped down in every sense of the word. I mean things are strip that just didn't need to be. I have sunk HOURS into re-assembling all the itty bitty pieces.


This all boils down to one thing. If you don't like a posted price, negotiate. Shit I have had several offers of things I am looking for or for things I am selling. However I have not liked those offers and I have refused them.

I think many buyers put a higher price so they have some negotiation room.

G&P249s! $1900!
Got mine for $1200 though, not a bad deal even by todays pricing.

"Yeah, but I can get it cheaper from the USA or if I order from China. Why is your price so high?".... OK yeah, you do that and when you get flagged or caught at the border with a full body cavity search for smuggling come speak to me then about the price being "Too high". Fucktards

Exchange rate and SHIPPING tend to be the top 2 reasons. Last reason being stores need to make money too...
$350 g&g local versus $280 in the US, cheaper to buy local.

It would be nice if people left the price after the gun is sold to see what the market is like.
so many times I look at a sales thread on a gun similar to mine that I wanna sell and the asking price is ether;

SOLD or BANANA;so your telling me I can buy guns with bananas now??.

But besides that I see lots of sellers asking inflated prices on mid to low range guns with run of the mill parts and crappy optics that are worth little to nothing after a few uses.
just because it has new gears,piston ext, doesn't make it supper custom and worth 30% more.

but that's just me.

It's in the rules they're supposed to leave the price.

Don't like the price, don't buy it.

Or, as thousands of years of human social interaction have taught us.... COMMUNICATE with the seller and see if he/she is willing to lower the price.

It depends on who is selling the gun an how legit their work is. If Randy Jones listed an "upgraded" VFC for $600 and could not provide exact details on the upgrades, I sure as hell would stay away from that gun. If they provided details but weren't known to me as a good tech, I'd still stay away because bad tech work is rampant. To me, untouched is unfucked. The only exception is when work is done by someone I know does good work that I won't have to re do.

That being said, people need to learn that selling stuff always comes at a loss. The last three guns I sold for cash went for $800, $1100, and $1200. All of them were sold at a loss compared to cost of parts brand new despite what most would think from seeing those price tags. People bitched about my prices, but in the end all of those builds were sold in less than 24 hours. If your work is legit, in demand high quality work, then you can list for more because your work adds value to the gun. If you're not known then your work probably won't add value.

Also, painted guns... I don't get why people go for the "worn" aka " looks like shit" paint job. Those decrease value by st least $100. Even if its a well done paint job, it still decreases your value unless the coating was done professionally and isn't ghetto spray paint. If your gun was hydrodipped, cerakoted, or anodized, then it can add value. If its been spray painted, value goes down for being ghetto.

A lot of people replace the price with Banana, or even put SPF to replace the price, when the rules explicitly say not too.

It's amazing how many people don't read the rules.

Love this.. isn't half your team running painted guns? :D

Or they bump the thread with "SOLD"

lols.

need moar mods.

Yep, Zach paints them. He does a good job of it, but he knows that it decreases resale value. I'm thinking about getting a gun hydrodipped in Kryptek. In my opinion a well done professional coating doesn't decrease value.

I leave all my guns black.

It's like how my girlfriend got a great deal on her car because the previous owner had it painted blue with white flames LOL.