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Scrivah October 28th, 2012 12:51

Whats your red dot of choice?!
 
Hey guys,

Have been looking up some red dots and it seems like there are a million choices from clones to airsoft specific and ones designes for .22's etc.

Of all the ones out there I think I have come to like the Tasco Red Dot that is sold at the big box stores and gun stores alike. I believe they sell for $49 these days ($30 inthe US). It works off a single cell button battery.

Anyone else use this? What one do you have/like the best?

NANA October 28th, 2012 13:21

When i started I was using a Bushnell from basspro. ($40ish)(seen on the M4 in my sig pic) Ive gone through a few since then and as far as looks vs use I havent found anything better for the price then my clone 552 $50ish. I would rather look through the square of a 55x type RD the the circle of the bushnell or tasco types.

But then again airsoft is all about what feels better to you. My idea of the perfect RD could be way off base in your view.

redzaku October 28th, 2012 13:42

the tasco red dot is great for the price, it is able to handle a 5.56/.223 calibre rifle, and maybe a shotgun depending on what load is in it
nc stars from marstars, well one vendor that supplies all kind and located in canada that i could find without including edmonton's milarm
or like said, the bushnell, it is all depends on the preference you have and the prices, these described are for newbie real steel shooters that wants a red dot but do not have the luxury to pay or something one wants to replace easily
weight is also should be in mind, what is the point of carrying a heavy red dot if your load out is based on speed and low profile, so a doctor red dot sight or the same style but you will need to rise up to your eye sight height
so is there a budget to be known? if so, if you like the aimpoint but cannot afford it, you should consider a vortex strikefire, price for it is under 200 dollars
Vortex Strikefire: "$135 Aimpoint?" by Nutnfancy - YouTube
however if you do get a good red dot, get a killflash
http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread....ht=kullwarrior

Rommen October 28th, 2012 15:10

I've been eyeing this bad boy for quite some time now... any user comments?

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/...-red-dot-scope

Off_kilter October 28th, 2012 15:22

They have amazing reviews online. ANd are apparently one of the best sights for the money.

Scrivah October 28th, 2012 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rommen (Post 1719214)
I've been eyeing this bad boy for quite some time now... any user comments?

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/...-red-dot-scope

Its $289 USD and made for real assault rifles. It had better be good or I would ask for a refund. Is this sight really necessary for airsoft?! You must have pretty deep pockets.

MaciekA October 28th, 2012 15:49

That Tasco red dot sight is actually great. It's one of the only sights I've found I might actually have a chance of keeping on the rifle all day. Most of my sights I take off after a short time, due to iron sights kicking so much ass.

R.I.T.Z October 28th, 2012 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrivah (Post 1719225)
Its $289 USD and made for real assault rifles. It had better be good or I would ask for a refund. Is this sight really necessary for airsoft?! You must have pretty deep pockets.

you must have not seen the kit gallery or the night vision gallery

I personally run a clone Eotech. Love it.

Jamroxorz October 28th, 2012 16:16

I use the Tasco on my MP9. It's actually really solid. And the lenses can take paintballs and BBs w/o breaking. For the price it's pretty great.

c3sk October 28th, 2012 16:21

Had a T1 Micro, ditched it for an Elcan DR + Docter Red Dot.

I find the Docters to be faster, and quite comfortable considering where they are mounted on the Elcan.

http://www.docterusa.com/_mgxroot/page_10767.html
Price is quite reasonable considering what you get!


I was really quite fond of my T1 though, good little optics.

redzaku October 28th, 2012 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrivah (Post 1719225)
Its $289 USD and made for real assault rifles. It had better be good or I would ask for a refund. Is this sight really necessary for airsoft?! You must have pretty deep pockets.

if you do not mind shipping, then buy it from optic planet, 170 dollars there

ShelledPants October 28th, 2012 18:49

Aimpoint PRO. It's got all the function (and more... ) as the M2, and can be bought locally for $550 tax in with an ARD.

The mounting solution is also really nice, with an anti locking twist that prevents over tightening the device while providing tonnes of support.

Scrivah October 28th, 2012 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShelledPants (Post 1719273)
Aimpoint PRO. It's got all the function (and more... ) as the M2, and can be bought locally for $550 tax in with an ARD.

The mounting solution is also really nice, with an anti locking twist that prevents over tightening the device while providing tonnes of support.

Haha only $550 eh?! I don't think i would ever spend that much on an airsoft optic. Especially when a gun only has a real effective range of 100ft or so. I will stick with my Tasco I can put a grouping together just as well with that!

Danke October 28th, 2012 22:25

Optics Planet will not ship to Canada.

Favorite is a EOTech 551.

For EOTechs watch for used ones. You can get them for the price of a good clone and they work as advertised.

ShelledPants October 28th, 2012 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrivah (Post 1719334)
Haha only $550 eh?! I don't think i would ever spend that much on an airsoft optic. Especially when a gun only has a real effective range of 100ft or so. I will stick with my Tasco I can put a grouping together just as well with that!

$550 may sound like a lot, but it's a reliable optic and all Aimpoint optics are covered with a 10 Year warranty (under personal use, only 2 year under competition use).

That and I can take my optic and put it on my real gun if I were so inclined.

Lastly, it's got the first 4 settings are for use with NVG. Too low to see with the human eye, but just enough to be seen with my NODs and perfect for not giving yourself away against other players with nods.

redzaku October 28th, 2012 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke (Post 1719369)
Optics Planet will not ship to Canada.

i thought so, they were very mums on the shipping parts

Curo October 28th, 2012 22:47

aimpoint pro. used it on my,uncles shotgun. love it.

MASAKO October 28th, 2012 23:28

I use Aimpoint CompML2 on my PTW and my bf run Eotech EXPLS3-0 on his PTW as well. I prefer eoetch than aimpoint due to round reticle along with 1 MOA dot right at the center, make me acquire the target faster than Aimpoint especially when BB's flight path of airsoft gun alway way off sometime due to wind and such plus his optic can use with PVS 14, aimpoint does as well on some model but not the one which he got for me.

For outdoor, he runs Millet DMS-1 with Larue 1.93 SPR mount, that is his favourite. Good eyes relief plus their donut dot is similiar to Eotech so make him use to it. Hope it help.

Karma_ October 28th, 2012 23:40

Aimpoint T1. Love it.

Kozzie October 28th, 2012 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke (Post 1719369)
Optics Planet will not ship to Canada.

Favorite is a EOTech 551.

For EOTechs watch for used ones. You can get them for the price of a good clone and they work as advertised.

Quote:

Originally Posted by redzaku (Post 1719374)
i thought so, they were very mums on the shipping parts

I received an order from them over a year ago, mostly holster stuff.

Off_kilter October 29th, 2012 00:14

Belomo PK-A

Relatively cheap(for real steel optics) solid as hell mounting solution.

Also looks awesome on my RPK-74

Danke October 29th, 2012 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kozzie (Post 1719400)
I received an order from them over a year ago, mostly holster stuff.

Last time I talked to them it was no go. Bianchi belt no less.

mcguyver October 29th, 2012 00:38

Eotech 551 for night or CQB work.

Trijicon ACOG TA31 for outdoor work. Fabulous glass on the Trijicon, definately worth the money. When your effective range is 100 ft., you don't need good glass. When it is 300 ft., different story.

Harvester1199 October 30th, 2012 12:49

aimpoint t1 here also :)

Ninja_En_Short October 30th, 2012 15:13

Leapers 1-4X24 30mm for my ARES G36

Not a dot strictly speaking but with lit mildot in 1x I'm using it as one, never had an issue.

On the RS either my Leupold MK4 or Aimpoint CompM4S + magnifier with FTS mount.

darkshift November 27th, 2012 22:14

Anyone have experience with any good T1 Micro replicas? Scratch building my GBBR atm, looking for a T1 replica that won't get ripped apart by the recoil.

ThunderCactus November 27th, 2012 22:17

The locomotive!
Elcan Spectre DR fixed 4x replica
$200, incredibly crystal clear, very crisp lines, and the most incredibly clean red/green dot I've ever seen on a replica.
And minimum brightness you actually have trouble seeing it indoors, and there is ZERO glare on the dot.

horto November 27th, 2012 22:45

Eotech 552.
Although the choo choo is a nice piece of glass. (Just a little heavy)

redneck12 November 27th, 2012 23:04

Darkshift check out the Dytac T1's I have one on my WE M4 and its held up well. My only complaint is there is a slight tint to the lense so it can be a darker sight picture when gaming in a very dark area. But It has a very nice crisp dot in both red and green. It holds zero no problems at game fps levels, lol but it will lose zero if you run full power.
Mine is model # DY-ST11-BK I believe I picked it up at WGC.

MaciekA November 27th, 2012 23:42

I order stuff (mostly to do with telescopes and binoculars) from optics planet all the time. Depends what you buy. A lot of "tactical" stuff will get shipped if they don't have restrictions on it.

K3vX November 27th, 2012 23:54

What would be a good (clone) red dot sight in this style?

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/media/cat...file_75_47.jpg

Azathoth November 28th, 2012 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkshift (Post 1730441)
Anyone have experience with any good T1 Micro replicas? Scratch building my GBBR atm, looking for a T1 replica that won't get ripped apart by the recoil.

primary arms Micro clone:
https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_s/586.htm

Best dot I have purchased. Family has it on a AR and AK platform in the states holds a great zero, rugged little thing.

I've left mine on for 3 months at the lowest setting and the battery / optic is still good.

You will need to have some redirect the optic to you, they don't ship to Canada.

Blackthorne November 28th, 2012 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rommen (Post 1719214)
I've been eyeing this bad boy for quite some time now... any user comments?

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/...-red-dot-scope


Have it and LOVE it on my PTW. Shot out two on real steel tho. One on an AR and the other on my VZ.

Great for airsoft but I wreck em on RS. Not transferable in my opinion.

Azathoth November 28th, 2012 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackthorne (Post 1730609)
Have it and LOVE it on my PTW. Shot out two on real steel tho. One on an AR and the other on my VZ.

Great for airsoft but I wreck em on RS. Not transferable in my opinion.

One of our guys had one on his PTW and we did a side by side against my primary arms. We both agreed that the Primary arms was superior in build quality and in the dot crispness and brightness range. The glass was marginally better in the SPARC. Best value for the dollar goes to primary arms.

Good to know about the Vortex on live fire. My family won't touch them and I didnt think it was -that- bad.

Bushnell has a micro clone TRS-25??? I considered it before getting my PA micro seems like a solid little piece at a decent price range.

kullwarrior November 28th, 2012 19:28

My problem with Vortex is simply the brightness SUCKS.
I personally don't think there's a point to NV capability. Unless you're running mono-bino or bino NVG setup there's no point (PVS-7, PVS-15, ENVG)

DustMagnet November 28th, 2012 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by K3vX (Post 1730478)
What would be a good (clone) red dot sight in this style?

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/media/cat...file_75_47.jpg

How about:

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/6...ght-font-b.jpg

ShelledPants November 28th, 2012 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 1730698)
My problem with Vortex is simply the brightness SUCKS.
I personally don't think there's a point to NV capability. Unless you're running mono-bino or bino NVG setup there's no point (PVS-7, PVS-15, ENVG)

So theres no point to the nv mode... unless you use nv... sounds about right.

RacingManiac November 28th, 2012 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azathoth (Post 1730588)
primary arms Micro clone:
https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_s/586.htm

Best dot I have purchased. Family has it on a AR and AK platform in the states holds a great zero, rugged little thing.

I've left mine on for 3 months at the lowest setting and the battery / optic is still good.

You will need to have some redirect the optic to you, they don't ship to Canada.

They've been OOS for months....looking to get one as a cheaper 2nd T1...

Styrak November 28th, 2012 21:16

If you're looking for a good T1 Micro clone, get one here when they're instock.
They're even realsteel rated so you know they're going to be good:

http://www.theammosource.com/index.p...x&cPath=21_201

K3vX November 30th, 2012 19:27

And where would I find this sight in Canada? At a reasonable price.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustMagnet (Post 1730720)


DustMagnet November 30th, 2012 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by K3vX (Post 1731512)
And where would I find this sight in Canada? At a reasonable price.

In Canada, at a Canada-reasonable price, with Canada-typical shipping, how about here?

That's only 2.4X the price of ordering direct from China, so for in-country that is pretty reasonable.

EDIT: Hell, if I wanted one I would drive over there and pay $40 rather than wait for China shipping because I don't have to pay shipping. Plus the proprietor is a cool guy.

K3vX November 30th, 2012 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustMagnet (Post 1731517)
In Canada, at a Canada-reasonable price, with Canada-typical shipping, how about here?

That's only 2.4X the price of ordering direct from China, so for in-country that is pretty reasonable.

I've never ordered from a oversea retailer, so I'm not exactly confident in doing so. The one you linked seems reasonable :)

DustMagnet November 30th, 2012 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by K3vX (Post 1731523)
I've never ordered from a oversea retailer, so I'm not exactly confident in doing so. The one you linked seems reasonable :)

Yes, lots of his stuff is really reasonable.

K3vX December 1st, 2012 19:26

Oh, while Im at it. After reading a little about killflash stuff, is there any killflash that would fit the type of red dot/reflex sight I posted above?

If not, I guess I just wish Im lucky.

DustMagnet December 1st, 2012 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by K3vX (Post 1731796)
Oh, while Im at it. After reading a little about killflash stuff, is there any killflash that would fit the type of red dot/reflex sight I posted above?

If not, I guess I just wish Im lucky.

Never seen one for that type of sight.

K3vX December 2nd, 2012 10:08

Then I'll try to not break it... Or I'll get an EoTech in the same style. Because I really don't want a red dot Scope, and the one I linked would be the one I want the most.

SKI December 2nd, 2012 13:19

TR553. I consider it an eotech 553 knock off. Not a clone. I use it on my RS AR and so far so good. The price is right even for airsoft. Trace optics makes a few other knock offs as well.

DustMagnet December 2nd, 2012 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKI (Post 1731975)
TR553. I consider it an eotech 553 knock off. Not a clone. I use it on my RS AR and so far so good. The price is right even for airsoft. Trace optics makes a few other knock offs as well.

Is the TR533 a true holographic sight then, or just another red dot in an EOTech-style housing? And where do you buy your Trace Optics sights?

SuperHog December 2nd, 2012 18:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azathoth (Post 1730588)
primary arms Micro clone:
https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_s/586.htm

Best dot I have purchased. Family has it on a AR and AK platform in the states holds a great zero, rugged little thing.

I've left mine on for 3 months at the lowest setting and the battery / optic is still good.

You will need to have some redirect the optic to you, they don't ship to Canada.

Where is it made?

-=ArchAngel=- December 2nd, 2012 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperHog (Post 1732060)
Where is it made?

i believe they are made in China. But then again, they are QC'd pretty well. I've read some review on their stuff and so far, they've been quite positive.

RacingManiac December 3rd, 2012 00:01

I believe they also work with T1 mounts, if you get the removable mount version...

mike_sinyard April 15th, 2013 23:21

Aimpoint T1??? awesome and its ONLY $550... thats only twice the price of my gun. Thats amazing.. Definately need this on my airsoft gun.... YEaaaaaaa im looking more at the eotech 552 clone. only $50 on ebay. i might get one of these if not then ill go with the tasco

-=ArchAngel=- April 15th, 2013 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_sinyard (Post 1784871)
Aimpoint T1??? awesome and its ONLY $550... thats only twice the price of my gun. Thats amazing.. Definately need this on my airsoft gun.... YEaaaaaaa im looking more at the eotech 552 clone. only $50 on ebay. i might get one of these if not then ill go with the tasco

if u cant afford and/or dont want a RS optic, then dont buy one. No one is forcing you. There are always cheaper clones which are perfectly acceptable in airsoft.
Others may prefer RS optics because they are 1. more durable, 2. better reticle, 3. can hold zero on gbbrs 4. dont break on gbbrs 5. waterproof
If these things dont matter much to you, then you dont have to get one. No need to get snarky about it
And dont necro post.

mike_sinyard April 15th, 2013 23:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=ArchAngel=- (Post 1784875)
if u cant afford and/or dont want a RS optic, then dont buy one. No one is forcing you. There are always cheaper clones which are perfectly acceptable in airsoft.
Others may prefer RS optics because they are 1. more durable, 2. better reticle, 3. can hold zero on gbbrs 4. dont break on gbbrs 5. waterproof
If these things dont matter much to you, then you dont have to get one. No need to get snarky about it
And dont necro post.

i actually took a course in necromancy.. Only cost me like $650.. So im qualified for necro posting

Wilkie April 16th, 2013 00:27

I use a Aimpoint Comp2 clone that I found for $10 lol It's actually a pretty darn good optic. Switches between Red and Green, and holds it's zero well.

-=ArchAngel=- April 16th, 2013 04:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilkie (Post 1784892)
I use a Aimpoint Comp2 clone that I found for $10 lol It's actually a pretty darn good optic. Switches between Red and Green, and holds it's zero well.

if its on a gbb then for $10, then thats a steal!

zone 69 April 16th, 2013 11:47

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