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mike_sinyard July 28th, 2013 09:34

Helmet.. Worth getting?
 
http://www.airsplat.com/ItemCombinat...q&MatrixType=1

I know these are usually close to $80.. So i was wondering is this a food idea to grab one of these?

Im looking for a helmet I can airsoft with for a LOOONNNGGGG time like my vest.. one time purchase

R.I.T.Z July 28th, 2013 09:35

if you are looking for durability and one time purchase, honestly, Go REAL
Ops core is the usual go to brand around here,

HackD July 28th, 2013 09:44

I've been using a repro Mich2000 for the past year.. i've also got an repro Ops-Core in addition to that - but i didn't really like it for airsoft, so relegated it to mountain-biking.

Nothing like being in the bush, trying to be all sneaky (when you really aren't being) and someone rattles a string of BB's off your lid... rather than your scalp/ears/forehead.. that's a good pay-off for a helmet right there.

The crash-absorbing qualities of these helmets are not near what a proper motorcycle helmet would be.. but using an ATV as part of my setup, the Mich2000 has enough protection to offer safety benefits without making me nervous.

Down-side of a helmet in airsoft (as in real life) .. hot as hell during warmer days.

mike_sinyard July 28th, 2013 09:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 1819201)
if you are looking for durability and one time purchase, honestly, Go REAL
Ops core is the usual go to brand around here,

WOW $900... i'm just gunna stick to the repros than

soupy12 July 28th, 2013 10:03

As already stated above I'd recommend real opscore. Basejumps go for just under 300$ and are ten times more comfy then any repro. Nice thing about the Basejump is it has venting in the top to allow better airflow. Also the NVG mount is sized correctly if you ever get the urge down the road ;)

mike_sinyard July 28th, 2013 10:07

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Originally Posted by soupy12 (Post 1819210)
As already stated above I'd recommend real opscore. Basejumps go for just under 300$ and are ten times more comfy then any repro. Nice thing about the Basejump is it has venting in the top to allow better airflow. Also the NVG mount is sized correctly if you ever get the urge down the road ;)

oh nice ok... i just seen the ballistic one for 900... might look into this. Thanks guys

R.I.T.Z July 28th, 2013 10:27

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Originally Posted by mike_sinyard (Post 1819211)
oh nice ok... i just seen the ballistic one for 900... might look into this. Thanks guys

you can go for ballistic rated sure, but most of them run 300 or less, I think there was 1 or 2 ops cores in the classifieds as well.

Forever_kaos July 28th, 2013 14:29

Been a few times a helmet has saved my head from a good knocking.

One particular field, a fellow fell next to an old car or some metal, helmet got a good scratch but his head was fine. Unlucky, but lucky.

Now for us it's almost purely impression.. but it's a big bonus that's for sure. If I were into the modern gadgets, I would invest in a good one.
I find after awhile you tend to forget it's there. Even some old school WW2 bucket.

ThunderCactus July 28th, 2013 16:59

I use a repro mich in CQB, was $50, works fantastic never had any complaints.
Tough shell on it too, gel pads inside, real comfy

Borealis July 28th, 2013 17:29

If you ever want to do CQB or indoor play, get an helmet; it's gonna save you so many headaches and bruises. The downside is that it cuts a lot of your earring capabilities; so it's another reason to get a real one instead of a repo, they have better spacing around your ears so that you won't feel as deaf.

CR0M July 28th, 2013 17:29

getting shots off the head sucks, but its not the worst thing. I prefer to not use them, but some fields are more dangerous than others. Like when I do games at picton I like to wear a helmet in case I trip and fall on the concrete.

QUATTROISKING July 28th, 2013 18:02

I don't care if I get trolled again... Helmets for Airsoft= gay.... Sorry if I wore one I would feel like a goof! Lets hear all the people's comments who play pretend army?

R.I.T.Z July 28th, 2013 18:09

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Originally Posted by QUATTROISKING (Post 1819315)
I don't care if I get trolled again... Helmets for Airsoft= gay.... Sorry if I wore one I would feel like a goof! Lets hear all the people's comments who play pretend army?

I find that they are usueful, Helmet cams, mounting your nvgs etc. also playing in a few CQB facilities such as Picton or even traveling down to the states where the FPS is higher, taking a shot like that to the dome is pretty nasty.

Gunny1980 July 28th, 2013 18:58

My first day back to airsoft after my eye surgery i ran full bore into a low doorframe at Ultimate Airsoft.........had i not been wearing my helmet (brandspanking new opscore repro ) i would have split my head wide open if not knocked myself the fuck out lol. So i most certainly recommend a helmet of some form especially in CQB environments. Or if you have a.run of bad luck like myself:p

HackD July 28th, 2013 19:00

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Originally Posted by QUATTROISKING (Post 1819315)
I don't care if I get trolled again... Helmets for Airsoft= gay.... Sorry if I wore one I would feel like a goof! Lets hear all the people's comments who play pretend army?

You may feel like a goof wearing a helmet.. it's your sense of aesthetic, and your own insecure sexuality at play... "gay", indeed.

For some people in this game, helmets do appear to serve a purpose in airsoft, as others have already pointed out.. for additional safety, aesthetics, or simply for the sake of Gear-Do'ing. Their choice. Let them make that choice.. you ain't the one wearing the lid, after all.

Nice troll attempt, and a nicely added user title for you, though!

pugs144 July 28th, 2013 20:14

It should be "Loves Playing With Purple Helmets."

CR0M July 28th, 2013 21:47

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Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 1819318)
I find that they are usueful, Helmet cams, mounting your nvgs etc. also playing in a few CQB facilities such as Picton or even traveling down to the states where the FPS is higher, taking a shot like that to the dome is pretty nasty.


this...

but I have to agree on the cosmetic side of things they dont look too cool to me... that said, Id never knock a person for wearing one...

When I wore mine it was for mounting my gopro and NV... running around with a helmet makes me feel like a giant bobble head

R.I.T.Z July 28th, 2013 21:54

Also to address one thing.
"Playing pretend army"

um.... isn't that what Milsim is?

Sorry we can't all come from Pro Paintball Giancarlo

EchoFourTwelve July 28th, 2013 21:55

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Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 1819375)
Also to address one thing.
"Playing pretend army"

um.... isn't that what Milsim is?

I just think he's in the wrong hobby/sport.

Styrak July 29th, 2013 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by QUATTROISKING (Post 1819315)
I don't care if I get trolled again... Helmets for Airsoft= gay.... Sorry if I wore one I would feel like a goof! Lets hear all the people's comments who play pretend army?

Looks like someone has a new tag!

Brian McIlmoyle July 29th, 2013 00:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by QUATTROISKING (Post 1819315)
I don't care if I get trolled again... Helmets for Airsoft= gay.... Sorry if I wore one I would feel like a goof! Lets hear all the people's comments who play pretend army?

is concrete softer when you are holding an airsoft gun... or just your head?

ShelledPants July 29th, 2013 01:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by QUATTROISKING (Post 1819315)
I don't care if I get trolled again... Helmets for Airsoft= gay.... Sorry if I wore one I would feel like a goof! Lets hear all the people's comments who play pretend army?

Head Protection. Nighvision. Cameras.

Forest play? Sure, helmets are low priority for basic skirmish and milsim.

CQB and City Fighting? Fucking right you want a helmet.

Also, lol, I'm late to the party on this, love the avatar/name tag.

QUATTROISKING July 29th, 2013 02:36

Lmao I LOVE AIRSOFT !!! But putting on a helmet just feels for it just feels wrong. If you are using a go pro... By all means I support it. But as in a previous comment.. Nvg's? Common... 10,000$ for Airsoft.

ShelledPants July 29th, 2013 02:41

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Originally Posted by QUATTROISKING (Post 1819428)
Lmao I LOVE AIRSOFT !!! But putting on a helmet just feels for it just feels wrong. If you are using a go pro... By all means I support it. But as in a previous comment.. Nvg's? Common... 10,000$ for Airsoft.

There are tonnes of NV in Canada. Don't be silly.

pugs144 July 29th, 2013 08:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by QUATTROISKING (Post 1819428)
Lmao I LOVE AIRSOFT !!! But putting on a helmet just feels for it just feels wrong. If you are using a go pro... By all means I support it. But as in a previous comment.. Nvg's? Common... 10,000$ for Airsoft.

You're a funny guy.

ThunderCactus July 29th, 2013 08:53

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Originally Posted by QUATTROISKING (Post 1819428)
But as in a previous comment.. Nvg's? Common... 10,000$ for Airsoft.

$10,000? Some people have $15,000 thermal monoculars.
Mb is the cheapest airsoft province in the country and even we've got a dozen NVD's among us.
If you wanna run around your back yard shooting your buddy with $20 clearsoft guns that's your business, but don't come here telling the milsim players what to do, cause airsoft is RUN by the milsim players.

Derpystronk July 29th, 2013 11:14

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Originally Posted by QUATTROISKING (Post 1819315)
Lets hear all the people's comments who play pretend army?

Alright, first off... You play pretend army. That is usually a given being part of this forum.

Quote:

Helmets for Airsoft= gay.... Sorry if I wore one I would feel like a goof!
Quote:

Originally Posted by QUATTROISKING (Post 1819428)
Lmao I LOVE AIRSOFT !!! But putting on a helmet just feels for it just feels wrong.

To be completely fair to you I do agree. I do feel like a bit of a goof ball when I have to put on oven mitts when taking a baking tray out of the oven. They look absolutely silly and I feel really insecure while they are on my hands. Sometimes I think the risk of injury and lack of living nerves in my hand would be worth not having to dress up like a sissy man. [/sarcasm] I bet wearing a helmet while riding a bicycle also feels wrong. Maybe wearing a seat belt while driving. The helmet serves two purposes, whether it is real or not. It offers protection from injury. Even the fake repro stuff will help save your noggin from a good smack.

Depending on where you are playing it can be very worth it to wear a helmet. It helps keep the sun off your head, and prevents it from getting smashed into things. Uneven rocky terrain? Might be a good idea. Dynamic CQB with concrete everything and a good chance of running into someone or their gun barrel? Might be a good idea. Helmet serves as a platform as well. Runs my red kill light for night time, a flashlight, my NVG's and sometimes a camera. You can customize it to carry things that you might not exactly want to carry around in your kit. Why keep your glowstick on your pouch and have to take it out whenever you die if you can keep it on your head? I also have an MS2000 emergency strobe light which we have actually used while we were lost in a game and I was glad to have it.

I use a Protec skateboarding helmet. I dress it up with what I need. I will be getting some more tacticool helmets soon to match the tacticool kit I have. Right now my skateboarding helmet does what I need it to and I am happy with it. You want to judge me, fine. Just remember if you trip and smash your head on some concrete I may be the guy providing first aid trying to keep the blood from leaking out of your skull until the ambulance arrives.

Quote:

But as in a previous comment.. Nvg's? Common... 10,000$ for Airsoft.
They are nowhere near that price if you want a functional NVG.

Otherwise, get a job.

Drake July 29th, 2013 11:19

This thread is full of epic

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvwcg...jo08o1_250.png

Cobrajr122 July 29th, 2013 12:46

I almost pulled an Arkell at Nightfall 2

This could have been my fleshy head against the concrete when I took a dive.
Good thing I was wearing my helmet...

http://i.imgur.com/ruQ1Xxf.jpg

Along with NOD mounting, cameras, comms, and protection, they also provide users with more patch real estate :P

Reignman July 29th, 2013 13:53

Cobra should be wearing his helmet all the time :P

I have one of the Emerson Base Jump helmets, infact a lot of us on the team run them. They are great quality and are less than 50$ if you don't want to shell out 230$ for a real ops core.

TANNER July 29th, 2013 14:10

+1 for the Protec skateboarding helmet. Light, cheap, snug fitting, and guaranteed to protect against bumps. Find a matt black or take some fine grain sandpaper to a gloss version.

Sure you may get shot through the vent holes now and again, but its worth it to keep your head cool.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...15.28%20PM.png]

I wouldn't go to an indoor game without one. Apart from the protection against bumps / falls getting shot in the head on a regular basis at close range is not too enjoyable.

JDoorn July 29th, 2013 14:26

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Originally Posted by Reignman (Post 1819559)
Cobra should be wearing his helmet all the time :P

I have one of the Emerson Base Jump helmets, infact a lot of us on the team run them. They are great quality and are less than 50$ if you don't want to shell out 230$ for a real ops core.

Where did you find them for less than $50?

m102404 July 29th, 2013 14:34

LOL...love that guy's new tag and avatar pic :)

I've seen too many really nasty head smashes, and nasty head smashes avoided, to say anything but...a properly fitted helmet in CQB is a "must have" IMO. .....Ask Mr. Shiney how it feels to fall on concrete with his bare head.

Field/forest stuff...not necessary IMO...unless you're running some gear or doing something that necessitates them.

Head shots in field games hurt...in CQB they hurt a lot more...but neither are going to lay you out.

If you're just dressing up...then get repro stuff. If you want to protect your head in the event of an impact that's going to mess with your brain...then get a real helmet that fits you properly. Beware of expecting repro stuff...it may look the part, it may even feel/fit like a helment should...but they're not made the same. (a great example were those repro "ballistic" eye pro....that didn't stop BBs...funny, but not for the guy who gets shot)

There's not too much more to it than that.

Protect helmets will do the trick...A-Alphas are just fine. The real ops core base jump helmets fit really nicely.

Reignman July 29th, 2013 17:09

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Originally Posted by JDoorn (Post 1819566)
Where did you find them for less than $50?

My first helmet was an IBH. I think a bed pan would be more comfortable. I then went to the Protec and it was comfy but felt rather large on my head. I switched to the Emerson Base Jump and I wouldn't trade it for anything. I love it.

42$

This is the FMA one. It's practically the same. Apextac ships fast and is awesome..

FMA Base Jump

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/s...ac/OCH-G-1.jpg

Drake July 29th, 2013 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by m102404 (Post 1819572)
If you're just dressing up...then get repro stuff. If you want to protect your head in the event of an impact that's going to mess with your brain...then get a real helmet that fits you properly. Beware of expecting repro stuff...it may look the part, it may even feel/fit like a helment should...but they're not made the same.

While it's true they aren't made the same, some repros are actually pretty solid (the heavy fiberglass MICH replicas, for example): they're not ballistic and they're no substitute for a proper helmet when one is required (bike, hockey, mountain climbing, job site, etc) but for the type of bumps your noggin' is likely to take playing airsoft they will protect your head (they're actually probably more solid than the average $15 hard hat). You do need to replace the crappy foam pads with proper MICH pads (issue or gel); even without reference to concussions, the stock foam is utter crap. The overall set will still set you back about $100+, but it's half the price (or better) off a real MICH and fits the "look" if that's what you're after.

I have one of those repro CRYE AirFrames too; its lighter than the MICH but still would protect against a nasty bump. Had to replace the pads on that too (to get it to fit, for comfort, etc); used MICH pads (except the crown pad).

The bottom line is if you're gonna whack your head on a concrete corner or metal beam or something, even those crappy $20 plastic PASGT helmets is gonna be better than nothing.

hollywood... July 29th, 2013 17:48

Even I will wear a Helmet from time to time - more so in CQB

6mm Headaches can ruin the day.

MICH2000 repro's are worth the $50 - 60

HackD July 29th, 2013 17:54

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Originally Posted by hollywood... (Post 1819640)

6mm Headaches can ruin the day.

MICH2000 repro's are worth the $50 - 60

+1 this. (even if i've said it earlier in thread.)

Mich2000 repro + replacement higher grade webbing, + interior padding from a time-expired motorcycle helmet == damn sure better than nothing.

GBBR July 29th, 2013 19:03

not only are helmets important so are jockstraps.

I was next to cookedham when he got shot in the balls.

m102404 July 30th, 2013 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 1819638)
While it's true they aren't made the same, some repros are actually pretty solid (the heavy fiberglass MICH replicas, for example): they're not ballistic and they're no substitute for a proper helmet when one is required (bike, hockey, mountain climbing, job site, etc) but for the type of bumps your noggin' is likely to take playing airsoft they will protect your head (they're actually probably more solid than the average $15 hard hat). You do need to replace the crappy foam pads with proper MICH pads (issue or gel); even without reference to concussions, the stock foam is utter crap. The overall set will still set you back about $100+, but it's half the price (or better) off a real MICH and fits the "look" if that's what you're after.

I have one of those repro CRYE AirFrames too; its lighter than the MICH but still would protect against a nasty bump. Had to replace the pads on that too (to get it to fit, for comfort, etc); used MICH pads (except the crown pad).

The bottom line is if you're gonna whack your head on a concrete corner or metal beam or something, even those crappy $20 plastic PASGT helmets is gonna be better than nothing.

Fair points taken...

I wrote my post targeted to the OP (and the like) who seemed like a "new" guy and asking a decent question. My point being...don't go repro (or homebrew) if you're looking for head protection.

Fair enough, and quite true, SOME of the repro stuff is quite sturdy...and would help to shake off the "run into a low doorway" type of stuff. And they can be made to be more comfortable and serviceable by replacing padding, straps, etc... But I didn't feel like offering up that as an option was prudent IF a new guy is looking to protect their head/brain from concussive injuries.

If they are looking at real options they can be had really cheaply. My first Protec was $30, my A-Alpha was $50, repro MICH was $20, ballistic MICH (didn't fit...too small) was under $100...etc...

Ballistic this or that is obviously not needed for airsoft...I wouldn't bother.

EagleDriver July 30th, 2013 11:30

I have both the real Ops Core Basejump and the FMA Basejump. For the difference in price, the FMA is the way to go. There are a few small details that could be better, but they are definitely not worth the $180 cost difference in what I paid between the two.

Reignman July 30th, 2013 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleDriver (Post 1819896)
I have both the real Ops Core Basejump and the FMA Basejump. For the difference in price, the FMA is the way to go. There are a few small details that could be better, but they are definitely not worth the $180 cost difference in what I paid between the two.

Exactly what I was trying to say.

I have put my Emerson side by side with ViR's real Op's core. Nothing noticeable in difference besides a marking in the shroud. Padding in the real is alot better but the knock off isn't bad at all.

1 thing I like a lot better is the real ops core dial doesn't loosen up.

Drake August 6th, 2013 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by m102404 (Post 1819885)
I wrote my post targeted to the OP (and the like) who seemed like a "new" guy and asking a decent question. My point being...don't go repro (or homebrew) if you're looking for head protection.

And again, I totally agree; repro is no substitute for real protection.

But (in response to some people who totally don't want to wear em) even the crappiest helmet can make the difference between seeing stars and maybe a concussion, and leaving on a stretcher with your head split open.

Reminds me this video of the guy falling off a rooftop: http://youtu.be/V9yVjhY3mNM

K3vX August 6th, 2013 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 1822123)
Reminds me this video of the guy falling off a rooftop: http://youtu.be/V9yVjhY3mNM

Ouuuuch.

Looks like the guy got lucky and didn't broke anything.

SuperHog August 6th, 2013 19:24

This debate can go on forever. Helmets are mandatory in all kinds of sports and industrial use. Designed to protect your one brain you have.

But for airsoft, goggles and face protection are part of my head protection requirements.

I have friends that wear only eye protection, and a few have missing front teeth, also commented that they hate wearing eye protection because it always fog up. If the field did not make eye wear mandatory, people would not wear it either.

BioRage August 9th, 2013 14:30

I came from paintball, and by standard paintball you need a full mask.

When I started airsoft I didn't wear a helmet, same day I played in CQB I got shot in the head. Man did that cause a huge bump with blood, threw me off for quite some time, hurt like a mofo.

So then, I went and got a helmet.

SuperHog August 13th, 2013 22:43

I play both and although paintball goggles are ASTM certified, airsoft players don't wear them. I still see a lot of players in CQB with eye protection only. Paintball requires it because of insurance reasons, but I think airsoft don't have insurance so people don't have to wear any protection.

So that I don't pass out from over heating, I wear only a full paintball mask with a fan indoors along with a padded baseball cap.

For outdoors, I wear Revision goggles, lower face mesh and a helmet.

thebreadbandit. August 27th, 2013 00:02

I may sound like a dunce, Reignman, but I'm on the site right now & can't figure out for the life of me how to add the helmet to my "Cart"... I don't even see a cart?!



Quote:

Originally Posted by Reignman (Post 1819629)
My first helmet was an IBH. I think a bed pan would be more comfortable. I then went to the Protec and it was comfy but felt rather large on my head. I switched to the Emerson Base Jump and I wouldn't trade it for anything. I love it.

42$

This is the FMA one. It's practically the same. Apextac ships fast and is awesome..

FMA Base Jump

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/s...ac/OCH-G-1.jpg


Cobrajr122 August 27th, 2013 00:06

Just call or email them, I dont see any 'add to cart' either :P

thebreadbandit. August 27th, 2013 00:15

Yeah, I've emailed them haha. My fellow Asians have let us all down.


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