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Graham February 15th, 2006 02:06

Scottish special units
 
I am having some difficulty finding information on Scottish special units, and was wondering if any of you may have some interesting information?

Lerch February 15th, 2006 22:52

Wouldn't Scottish units fall under the UK Army? I don't recall them having their own seperate army.
Try looking for Highland Special Units perhaps...or simply Special Units based in Scotland.

ATREYU February 15th, 2006 23:14

There is no Scottish army per/se. In fact, there is, as of August, no more Scottish Regiments - they are ALL amalgamated into one colosally large regiment called The Royal Regiment of Scotland. Bloody ENGLISH government!!! That is what the thread is started way back titled Save the Scottish Regiments http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=11878 was all about.

The website for this new regiment: http://www.it-serve.co.uk/rros/index.php

That means no more:
Royal Scots
Black Watch (RHR)
Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (PL)
Royal Highland Fusilliers (PMOGAR)
Kings Own Scottish Borderers
The Highlanders (Seaforth, Gordon, and Cameronians)
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards

Now each regiment will in turn become a battalion of this new "super regiment".

The capbadge: http://www.army.mod.uk/img/rrs/scots_badge_dress.jpg
The motto translated means: "Noone invokes me with impunity" And is the same motto that the Order of the Thistle has used since the 1700's.

Ghillie973 February 15th, 2006 23:40

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.ya...n_gleeson1.jpg

Godlyspartan February 15th, 2006 23:52

http://www.bradfordfilmfestival.org....highlander.jpg

Barf February 16th, 2006 00:01

http://www.army.mod.uk/infantry/regts/index.htm

http://www.army.mod.uk/uksf/index.htm

TheRussianPoljak August 18th, 2006 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATREYU
There is no Scottish army per/se. In fact, there is, as of August, no more Scottish Regiments - they are ALL amalgamated into one colosally large regiment called The Royal Regiment of Scotland. Bloody ENGLISH government!!! That is what the thread is started way back titled Save the Scottish Regiments http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=11878 was all about.

The website for this new regiment: http://www.it-serve.co.uk/rros/index.php

That means no more:
Royal Scots
Black Watch (RHR)
Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (PL)
Royal Highland Fusilliers (PMOGAR)
Kings Own Scottish Borderers
The Highlanders (Seaforth, Gordon, and Cameronians)
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards

Now each regiment will in turn become a battalion of this new "super regiment".

The capbadge: http://www.army.mod.uk/img/rrs/scots_badge_dress.jpg
The motto translated means: "Noone invokes me with impunity" And is the same motto that the Order of the Thistle has used since the 1700's.

I agree with ya brother.. But still being part English and Scottish at the same times can get really hard for me.. :smack:

CDN_Stalker August 18th, 2006 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRussianPoljak
Quote:

Originally Posted by ATREYU
There is no Scottish army per/se. In fact, there is, as of August, no more Scottish Regiments - they are ALL amalgamated into one colosally large regiment called The Royal Regiment of Scotland. Bloody ENGLISH government!!! That is what the thread is started way back titled Save the Scottish Regiments http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=11878 was all about.

The website for this new regiment: http://www.it-serve.co.uk/rros/index.php

That means no more:
Royal Scots
Black Watch (RHR)
Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (PL)
Royal Highland Fusilliers (PMOGAR)
Kings Own Scottish Borderers
The Highlanders (Seaforth, Gordon, and Cameronians)
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards

Now each regiment will in turn become a battalion of this new "super regiment".

The capbadge: http://www.army.mod.uk/img/rrs/scots_badge_dress.jpg
The motto translated means: "Noone invokes me with impunity" And is the same motto that the Order of the Thistle has used since the 1700's.

I agree with ya brother.. But still being part English and Scottish at the same times can get really hard for me.. :smack:

Try having Scot, English and Welsh! Lucky for me the Scot dominates the others. Unlucky for me that Scot blood is expensive to feed alcohol to. Lol

Yeoman August 19th, 2006 11:43

gee stalker; looks like you've got the best of all three. soccer hooligan that can drink a ton, then go make love to a sheep :D
I'll go back to my potatoe famine now heh.
I still say that's one of the WORST decisions the MOD has ever made.
Greg

DocDodge January 30th, 2007 03:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 341229)
Try having Scot, English and Welsh! Lucky for me the Scot dominates the others. Unlucky for me that Scot blood is expensive to feed alcohol to. Lol


You should see the looks my kilt gets when I go to the Scottish Games in Tulsa, OK.:D

MADDOG January 30th, 2007 11:02

ALBAINN GU-BRATH
 
NE OBLIVISCARIS:
Never Forget… that you have been entrusted by those who have gone before with the Argyll Spirit!

Mud Gunner January 30th, 2007 11:47

Nothing like taking pride of one's unit out of the army and making generic status quo...

S.H.I.E.L.D. January 30th, 2007 12:34

I hear ya brother. Fucking English Army. Can't let the Scottish have anything that is their own.

ATREYU January 30th, 2007 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedComrade (Post 415809)
I hear ya brother. Fucking English Army. Can't let the Scottish have anything that is their own.

Yes, our pipes still scare the shit out of opposing armies - the manky English included!!

Quote:

The Esk was swollen sae red an' sae deep,
But shouther to shouther the brave lads keep;
Twa thousand swam owre to fell English ground
An' danced themselves dry to the pibroch's sound.
Dumfoun'er'd the English saw, they saw,
Dumfoun'er'd they heard the blaw, the blaw,
Dumfoun'er'd they a' ran awa', awa',
Frae the hundred pipers an' a', an' a'.

DocDodge January 30th, 2007 14:01

On REFORGER 1976, I was TDY for a week from the U.S. 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment to a Black Watch infantry battalion as an exchange medic.

crazybagoham September 22nd, 2007 19:29

yeah the scots are under the british army, so they wear the british stuff, some will wear like a tam oshanter or something like that but nothing really different

Disco_Dante October 14th, 2007 22:58

This is a little late of me, but as a proud Scot I have to tell you guys... the Prime Minister of Britain (Gordon Brown), is Scottish. The ex Prime Minister (Tony Blair) is Scottish. The Royal Family, which has somehow managed to be so horribly watered down and yet so incredibly inbred is also Scottish.

And remember, who won all their wars for them? Damn right it was the Scots. Remember the thin red line!

MADDOG October 14th, 2007 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco_Dante (Post 554546)
This is a little late of me, but as a proud Scot I have to tell you guys... the Prime Minister of Britain (Gordon Brown), is Scottish. The ex Prime Minister (Tony Blair) is Scottish. The Royal Family, which has somehow managed to be so horribly watered down and yet so incredibly inbred is also Scottish.

And remember, who won all their wars for them? Damn right it was the Scots. Remember the thin red line!

Albainn Gu-Brath
Ne Obliviscaris

ASHofC (PL)

Groombug October 15th, 2007 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco_Dante (Post 554546)

And remember, who won all their wars for them? Damn right it was the Scots. Remember the thin red line!

Actually, it was generally the lower classes and the downtrodden of the British Isles. The Scots made up a portion of, but not the majority, of the legendary 19th century British 'redcoat' infantry. Many regiments of foot were raised in the 'shires and other parts of England, as well as parts of Ireland.

It is true that Scottish battalions like the Black Watch and the Royal Scots were superb fighting units, but so were other non-Scottish units, like Maitland's 52nd and the 27th Foot (Inniskillings). Let's also not forget the handiness of the King's German Legion, particularly the light cavalry.

BIGMEDCIN October 15th, 2007 01:58

Primarily the special forces in the British Army are the S.A.S (special air service), not only are they "counter everything" they are also do "mission based" operations, I had the opportunity to visit one of their small detachments in the Glasgow area while on CF training in Scotland a couple years back, two thing's I found interesting were, the SAS appeared to be primarily Scots (makes sense since most of their training and detachments are in Scotland), second thing was that fact that they had in their possession and wanted to adopt the Canadian C-7!. says a lot for Canadian designing given the fact our C-7 starts out as the US M-16 but the Canadian armourers get hold of them and modify them to CF standards, adding to that the SAS can and do have access to practically any weapons in the world, anyway I am getting off topic as usual.


SHofC
"Cuidich'n Righ"

BIGMEDCIN October 15th, 2007 02:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazybagoham (Post 541119)
yeah the scots are under the british army, so they wear the british stuff, some will wear like a tam oshanter or something like that but nothing really different


You can recognise Scottish Highland units usually by them wearing Balmoral's, most still identify their original Regiment by wearing a colored "HACKEL" with their cap badge.

Disco_Dante October 15th, 2007 17:46

Actually when i said remember the thin red line, i meant remember the BATTLE of the Thin Red Line, when the 93rd Highlanders fought off far greater amounts of Russian troops in the Crimean War.

mrgruber January 25th, 2008 14:36

sorry for the necro here, but i do belive that was battle of balaclava in the Crimean war

Beazer January 25th, 2008 15:12

Leave it to the english to screw something up.

Porkchop January 27th, 2008 00:35

Clearly, none of you have ever heard of the Queen's Own McKamikaze Highlanders, a unit that was so effective that out of 33,000 only three are left.
For more information on this fabled unit please access the historical tapes of Monty Python's Flying Circus.

scoutthedoggie May 13th, 2008 02:32

The Atholl Highlanders are a Scottish regiment. However, they are not part of the British Army. Instead, the regiment is in the private employ of the Duke of Atholl, making it the UK's, and indeed Europe's, only legal private army.

Cap Badge of the Atholl Highlanders
Active 1839- Present
Country Scotland, UK
Type Infantry
Size One battalion
Garrison/HQ Blair Atholl

http://www.whatsonwhen.com/sisp/inde...event_id=24201

Sapper_EOD February 1st, 2009 18:35

Erm... special division there are not... it breaks down now with two main branches.

1) The Scots Guards
2) The Royal Regiment of Scotland

RRoS breaks down as follows:

Black hackle for those affiliated to 1st (Royal Scots Borderers) Battalion Royal Regiment of Scotland.

White hackle for those affiliated to the 2nd (Royal Highland Fusiliers) Battalion Royal Regiment of Scotland.

Red hackle for those affiliated to the 3rd (Black Watch) Battallion Royal Regiment of Scotland.

Blue hackle for those affiliated to the 4th (Higlanders) Battalion Royal Regiment of Scotland.

green hackle for those affiliated to the 5th (Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders) Battalion Royal Regiment of Scotland.

White/Black hackle for those affiliated to 6th (52nd Lowland) Battalion Royal Regiment of Scotland.

Red/Blue/Green hackle for those affiliated to the 7th (51st Highland) Battalion Royal Regiment of Scotland.

the only difference being is the Guards are the ones you have to put the fear of God up anyone (look at Mount Tunbbledown 1982!), harder trained and damn fine soldiers.

Also if you're interested in WW2 milisim, have a look at 'Lord Lovettes Commandos', he too was one of the handful 'lairds' allowed to have his own private army, and was the one who releived Pegasus Bridge having his bagpipes played under fire.

pipefitter316 February 1st, 2009 19:50

the sas is made up of 70 % of scottish born troopers

Risc_Terilia June 17th, 2009 21:14

http://i19.tinypic.com/316l252.jpg

Reminded me of this thread.

pipefitter316 June 19th, 2009 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paps (Post 1010263)
But there aren't Scottish special units chaps?

yeah we know that but we are talking about scottitish units within the uk army. There is a large number of scots in the uk army particulairly in the sas as far as i know.

Malice Army June 19th, 2009 17:14

I love the way a bunch of Canadians think they can tell a guy who is in the British Armed Forces and lives in Scotland how it really is . LOL jokers

pipefitter316 June 19th, 2009 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Army (Post 1010268)
I love the way a bunch of Canadians think they can tell a guy who is in the British Armed Forces and lives in Scotland how it really is . LOL jokers

I dont recall anyone telling him how it really is , we were simply discussing as to whether or not there are scottish units within the uk forces, try reading the thread at the beginning before you post.

ex June 19th, 2009 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by -MikeL- (Post 1010251)
Depends, some do some don't. Probably depends on the company and/or any rules given to them when contracted by a Government.


Last year when I was in Afghanistan I saw one company of contracters an they were all wearing multicam.


The dude in the picture could be a contractor or member of a SOF unit like the British SFSG, etc

Very True Mate, That's why I said Generally...I have seen SF from several countries wearing Multicam as well. I was only making a point, but Paps seems to know this fellow or the pic in question. No worries though.

Malice Army June 19th, 2009 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by pipefitter316 (Post 909862)
the sas is made up of 70 % of scottish born troopers

so you know this for a fact?

pipefitter316 June 19th, 2009 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Army (Post 1010297)
so you know this for a fact?

watched a tv show on the sas a few years back and the fellow who was the host was former sas and he said that the sas was made up of 70% scottish, if i recall he said scottish are tough sobs. So thats my source if you feel the need to tell me im incorrect, by all means go ahead.

chico July 30th, 2009 20:40

hey pipefitter you watch too much tv

Strelok July 31st, 2009 02:49

Way to contribute to the thread, Chico.

Anyway, As for scottish special units? I don't think they would get must distinction as i'm sure there are scottish regiments simply as an addition to the british army as a whole. I do have family in scotland I can reference to if needed. And Pipefitter is right~ We are tough Sonovabitches! I wouldn't be too surprised to see a kilt amongst all of that tactical gear fro time to time ;)
________
brunette girl Cams

Disco_Dante July 31st, 2009 11:45

If someone attached Molle strips to a kilt I'd wear it in combat. I wore one to a semi formal once. They get chilly.

chico July 31st, 2009 11:57

sorry i'm old friends with pipefitter316 if it is who i think it is. and it was the only way to get his attention i havent been to airsoft canada since 2007 sorry guys

Endurimil November 15th, 2009 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATREYU (Post 256742)
There is no Scottish army per/se. In fact, there is, as of August, no more Scottish Regiments - they are ALL amalgamated into one colosally large regiment called The Royal Regiment of Scotland. Bloody ENGLISH government!!! That is what the thread is started way back titled Save the Scottish Regiments http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=11878 was all about.

The website for this new regiment: http://www.it-serve.co.uk/rros/index.php

That means no more:
Royal Scots
Black Watch (RHR)
Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (PL)
Royal Highland Fusilliers (PMOGAR)
Kings Own Scottish Borderers
The Highlanders (Seaforth, Gordon, and Cameronians)
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards

Now each regiment will in turn become a battalion of this new "super regiment".

The capbadge: http://www.army.mod.uk/img/rrs/scots_badge_dress.jpg
The motto translated means: "Noone invokes me with impunity" And is the same motto that the Order of the Thistle has used since the 1700's.

Do not worry. The Seaforth's name will not die. Despite the efforts of the Dod UK it will live on here in Canada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sea...ders_of_Canada

pipefitter316 November 16th, 2009 18:45

hey chico its all good, dont bust his balls too much guys ,hes got scottish desent in him (lowlander) and a good friend. As for the scottish ,we will never die ,we are immortalized in battle and still are the toughest bastards out there.

Endurimil November 16th, 2009 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by pipefitter316 (Post 1105525)
hey chico its all good, dont bust his balls too much guys ,hes got scottish desent in him (lowlander) and a good friend. As for the scottish ,we will never die ,we are immortalized in battle and still are the toughest bastards out there.

Scottish Mercenaries where the only one's trusted to guards the kings of France.

The101Factor February 27th, 2011 08:30

By Special Scotish Units are you talking the SAS "Artists" Squadron? Because the Artists are primarly Scotish.

Black Patch March 18th, 2011 02:38

What the hell are the SAS "Artists" ?
Is it 21, 22 or 23 Regiment?

Black Patch March 18th, 2011 02:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by pipefitter316 (Post 1010433)
watched a tv show on the sas a few years back and the fellow who was the host was former sas and he said that the sas was made up of 70% scottish, if i recall he said scottish are tough sobs. So thats my source if you feel the need to tell me im incorrect, by all means go ahead.

Made up of 70% Paras. Wherever the hell they come from. Not 70% Scots.
That said the Scot's are tough bastards and always will be.

Rugger_can March 18th, 2011 02:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Patch (Post 1431044)
What the hell are the SAS "Artists" ?
Is it 21, 22 or 23 Regiment?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artists_Rifles

http://www.eliteukforces.info/specia...rvice/history/


It would appear that the 21st regiment was at one point called Artists Rifles. I am not an expert though.

Black Patch March 18th, 2011 18:26

The 21 SAS is a Territorial Army battalion.

The only Regular regiment of the SAS is 22

Specops420 April 1st, 2011 17:12

Ok to put this to bed ....... The 21 SAS (Artists Rifles) was Based in the Duke of Yorks barracks in London (with one company and the HQ of 10 Para) and is a territorial battalion specializing in LRRP. 23 SAS was based in Scotland (I believe Edinburgh and Glasgow) it's also a territorial unit specializing in LRRP.

This info may be a little out of date as it's been a while since I had anything to do with either unit (I played OpFor/Hunter force a couple of times as a Reg Force Infantryman))


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