playing in the rain?
 

when you guys host the over night games what happens when it rains?
i thought bout using a CLEAR garbage bag with an elastic,still hafta see my gun.

According to MadMax, the only way you can effectively waterproof your gun is by putting it in a plastic bag. Firing your gun will break your waterproof seal.

I wouldn't want to risk water running down the barrel and shorting out the gearbox. I'd imagine most other people wouldn't want to risk $800+ guns for a night in the rain.
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I've played at least 6 games in the rain with no problems. I've never seen anyone with a garbage bag on their gun befor.

+1

Never had any problems

I could have sworn I saw a post like this a year or two ago.

Players just advised that you wipe your gun down well to prevent rust / corrosion of your gun's interior.
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*Edit* Here we are...
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=27770
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=38325
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=8750
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=38921


Search next time.

I play in BC where it rains ten months of the freakin' year.

For a "rain game" I open my AEG & give it a light dusting of silicone spray to repel any water, then close it up & play.
After the game, I open her up again, wipe it all down & check for leaks, then put her away till next time.

Never had any problems.

Never used a garbage bag.

http://www.chitambo.com/clouds/cloud...ccra_oct03.jpg

The waterproofing remark I made was for a post where someone wanted to submerge their AEG for a underwater-surface beach landing. There were few practical ways to waterproof an AEG against that kind of water pressure other than heat sealing it into a plastic bag or a watertight pressure box similar to what is used for underwater cameras.

Haggis man has the right idea for top down rain. A light application of silicone oil will protect external screws and other steel fasteners if you give it time to spread into the threads. I find a silencer makes an effective rain shroud (unless you have an inner barrel extended to the end) keeping rain water out of the IB. If you don't point straight up, you shouldn't get rain into your barrel. I guess if you're getting an amazonian deluge, you could drill a small hole in the bottom of the silencer to keep if from flooding into the IB and mechbox.

A well sealed unibody AEG suffers from less seepage. For example an AUG would probably suffer less leakage as the forend would probably shed water well, keeping it out of the mechbox. Conversely a M4 with it's upper-lower seam and external motor-grip seam offers more places for water to run into the mechbox and motor.

Silicone spray eh? i live in BC too , where can i get some of this spray?

good oll canadian tire 8 bux a bottle

I have played 1 night game and it rained a litle but wasnt to bad and played on game where it pissed down rain to the point that i didnt want to move but i lived with it nothing happened to my gun

Never had any problems playing in rain. Just be sure to spray your weapons with silicone as stated above, otherwise parts will rust.

I feel silly but the idea of Silly Putty came to mind....

um i check this thing almost every day. thanks for the help but you could of left that last sentence out...dickwad

Sometimes its ok to ask a question thats already been asked. Chillax dude. :)

Considering I found more than one thread, you should shut the fuck up and actually search next time. Help yourself.

dickwad? 13 y/o much.
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I HAVE THE SOLUTION!!!

Get a Mosfet! the fet itself can be made watertigh with a bit of sealing silicone (like in your bathroom, around your bath) The motor can run completely submerged (yes I tried it, in fact I run my new motor in water + alcool for 3 minutes.... help shaping new brushes)

Battery can be made watertight too with the help of the same silicone. everything else, just clean-up a bit after... that is all

You really don't want to immerse a motor in water. The armature plates are a mild steel which rusts up pretty fast. Ferrite magnets also corrode quickly. If you've got an aftermarket motor you'll probably rust up the bearings too. DC motors really aren't meant for water immersion.

nope 26 married with a kid on the way just didnt want to swear in a poen fourm...dickweed

Read this
http://www.kinkairsoft.com/forum/php...opic.php?t=184
The batteries are not high enough voltage to cause any problems. And everything is perfectly fine.

You're a real ass aren't you? (Rhetorical question, you don't answer it dim-witt)
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Arman, VipaMave... Maturity aside, you both must notice that you are insulting each other over an Internet forum.

Watch T.V. or something, keep it to facts as this thread points to that direction. Getting emotional over a post is as worthless as paying a buck more for coloured toilet paper. In the end, the colour is still shit.

Heh, did ya have tree's crashing down and tree debris flying all around?

If not, it couldn't have been all that fun. Hehe.

Psst, who remembers that game? ;)

Someone forgot to bring the claymores, I guess... :(

i've dropped my AEG into a river and quickly picked it up at a game. Played for an hour past that and my tappet plate broke. And thats about it. Interestingly the motor still worked while submerdged

We've played in downpours that you couldn't see 50ft in. You'll be fine.

my gun was in the rain for a good 8 hours, apart from a little rust on the outside the internals were just fine

Last 2 FR games were major rain outs, I just dried off my gun when I got home, no damage, little rust on some outer clips, otherwise no effect.

cool thanks guys

Wouldn't want to take my ICS AK out in that :shock:

I usually agree with you, but I have been doing this for about 5 years now... NEVER had any problems.

Rust will not be a problem. I don't know if it's just me that's hysteric, but I actually open my motor and mechbox when I do a clean-up of my AEGs. Open, remove rubber and sensitive parts, spray with some brake cleaner. Wipe away extra stuff left over, lube the parts that need it (gears, piston, bushings) and put everything together. Takes about 1 hour, but I am sure everything is in top shape.

When I have to run the motor in water, there is a reason:

If the commutator is too scratched, I send it on the tour so it comes back shinny. I also cut or change the brushes if they are worn down. I then run the moto on low voltage (2v-3v)in water + alcool solution to place the brushes to the commutator (They never are really in perfect contact when new. Low voltage allow the brushes to be fit to the commutator without arking, and water + alcool keeps the motor clean and cold.) Finally, a lot of brake cleaning spray (Wurks brand...or something like that) and 2 drops of Trinity royal oil on the bearings. You need oxygen to create rust. 3 minutes is not enought to scrap an armature.

Water being - H2...O?

Although I could be wrong.

I mean you need a lot. In the water there is some of the molecules that break in O+ and OH- ions =, but that quantity is minimal. With the help of the electric current that travels in the motor (and water around it). The amount of O+ is getting a bit higher. That is one of the reasons why I run the motor on low voltage. It reduce the effect the electric current as on the division of the water molecules.

Anyways. Still been 5 years I do it and no sign of rust at all.

Why not? Mine has survived it just fine.

Shut the hell up, don't come in here waving your dick around like you run the place.

Don't be like Greylocks.

Went to a game 2 weeks ago at Flag Raiders and it was humid as hell and it rained. By the end of it my AUG was slipping out of my hands (had gloves on) cuz it was slick with rain.

Wiped it down (Shemaghs are so handy for everything) before I put it away in it's case and there hasn't been any rust problems.

I'm sure you don't take offense at being insulted after providing a constructive response </sarcasm>. Not only did I run a search myself, I provided the links as well.


I don't think I do nor do I pretend to have any amount of 'authority' here on ASC. If you want to be an asshole to me, don't expect me to like you.
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Two tier body. If rain got inbetween the steel, and ABS, wouldn't that make drying the gun off a tad harder? :p

that was a PM not for the fourms! why do we have pm if people just do that?

Pretty sure that constitutes a ban.. :p

But seriously. Both of you need to stop thinking with your dicks. This isn't a cock waving sausage fest. And arman, you can show him you're the bigger man, by dropping it (or atleast insulting him w/o the use of nasty words ;)), and forgettin' bout it. Not hard gals!

It isn't steel, it's aluminum IIRC (whatever it is, it doesn't rust...), and the parts fit together so tightly that any water in there would be minimal to the point of not being an issue.

Yessir, ICS is aluminum...or some alloy there of.

Yes, the body parts are infact aluminum, however the fittings are not. As well, the type of alloy used will corrode just not with the "ferrous" reddish brown.

yeah, lets put a solution (there's more in rain water than just h2o) between 2 different metals... yay for a surprise buttsecks battery and ... rust.

You aren't immersing it. You're talking about rain hitting the top cover, defying gravity and going underneath the inside of the top cover, down in between PLASTIC and aluminum, and in enough of a quantity to wreck the gun. I don't see rain being an issue at all, as long as you properly dry out your gun afterwards...

:rolleyes:

Water defies gravity all the time. Although I can't see enough water infiltrating the cover to do serious damage.

I'm pretty sure it's steel. Almost every site says it is. Plus, don't you think it'd be kinda.. stupid.. to use aluminum sheets?

I'm fairly certain it's Aluminum (or some alloy there of). Every site I've seen has either just mentioned it as being "metal" or actually saying it's aluminum. Then again, I'm assuming ICS uses the same metal in all of their AEGs (as I am talking about an ICS MP5, not an AK).

I'm talking about the ICS AK74M. There are some parts which are obviously aluminum (bolt), but others seem too rigid to be aluminum.. example: 2mm thick outer shell. If it were aluminum, I'm sure it'd dent, and scratch alot easier.

It isn't steel.

Also, 2mm thick aluminum would be a lot tougher than you seem to think. Auto bodies are made with thinner stock.

An airplane's fuselage coverings are no different (although they may be thicker than 2mm...but 2mm is still a good chunk of Al).

What, you really thought you could hide behind a PM? Act like an Asshat behind the scenes and someone's going to put out it in plain view.

Later,

nope just thought it was for his eyes only they should call it a OM... i was just on my rag that day.?. ya all know

I guess you won't make that mistake again. :p

Later,

for the gent. talking about running a motor in water to help seat the brushes, I have heard of this for a sealed can. but if you have a means to run the motor at a lower amperage, you do not need to run a motor that you can open up. it serves no purpose, I may be mistaken though. also my metal body is aluminum, I have never also the gearbox is cast aluminum, I am quite sure. maybe take a magnet to it. but just don't use an aluminum magnet.

Arman, Vipamave, and now Whozat.
Do the mature thing and just stop it.
Arman, what would your child think if they saw how you have acted in this thread? Vipamave, have the decency and morality to keep private pm's private.
That's why they are called Private Messages.

So stop.

Rain will rust certain parts of your aeg, not much else.

Excuse me? Mature? Explain to me how I wasn't. And as far as PMs are concerned, is this the first time you've seen this occur? Stick around, you'll see it more often. You are right though PM does stand for Private Message, but for one to think that they can hide behind that and not be exposed is just plain ignorant.

Later,

I just finished playing a game this past weekend where it rained a rediculous amount. The only issue suffered by AEG's at the game was a bit of water entering the barrel which made the BB's spin out of control. As soon as the barrell dried out the issue was gone. SO i wouldn't be too worried about having water runing down the barrel into the mechbox since the BB's will clear it out (unless you have submerged the gun of course)