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CampinCarl12 November 20th, 2008 19:42

HELP!!!
 
i was just wondering what you guys think of the Classic Army M15A4 rifle.
this would be my first airsoft gun other than two crossman pistols (noob pistols)
if, however you do think this gun wouldnt be the greatest, or you think its just crap. say so, oh i also have a budget of 250 $
any help is appreciated
Thanks!!!

KNIVEZS November 20th, 2008 19:44

start reading

newbie buying guide
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=58784
general newbie guide
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=29
picking your first aeg
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=253
importing airsoft
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=40318
airsoft canada forum rules
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=53249
a big ol airsoft Q&A
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=51609
how to get age verified
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=11474
game and events section (from here pick your region to find a game in your area)
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/forumdisplay.php?f=22
WHERE CAN I BUY A GUN!?
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=11961
underage airsoft and YOU!
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=61532

and your not going to find a high end gun for $250

Strelok November 20th, 2008 19:44

I'm not even gonna touch this one.
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FIX PS3

The Saint November 20th, 2008 19:45

You can't get a brand new CA M15A4 for under $250CDN. If you're not Canadian, please indicate that in your profile.

Thatotherguy, posting just to say that you're not even gonna touch this one is a bit strange...

pusangani November 20th, 2008 19:47

$250 can buy some really nice guns ;)


http://www.hasbro.com/media/media/Ne...e%20Vulcan.jpg

CampinCarl12 November 20th, 2008 19:56

lol srry guys it was a typo its 2500$

Anthology November 20th, 2008 19:56

"Help!!!" makes this thread sound urgent. This is not urgent. This is a question that can easily be answered with a bit of reading.

The Saint November 20th, 2008 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by CampinCarl12 (Post 864431)
lol srry guys it was a typo its 2500$

Are you in Canada? If you are, read the links Knivez posted. It'll help you.

If you're in the US, you can do better than a CA with $2500.

Forever_kaos November 20th, 2008 19:59

If you are 18+ get age verified.
You can do this by meeting with a local rep and prooving you are 18+

Once you get verified you can see all the guns that Airsoft Canada has for sale.
Trying to import any gun by your self will result in failure.
Said gun you try and import will 99% get seized by Customs and destroyed

The FAQ has alot of useful facts.

pusangani November 20th, 2008 20:00

yeah, stop posting until you read every link from Knives

incrediboy729 November 20th, 2008 20:04

If you're in the US then $2500 can buy a systema (an insane airsoft gun).
I have the CAm15a4 and i love it, around 20,000 rounds throught it and it still works great.
Try doing a little research before posting here, because it WILL eventually lead to flameage :D.
Good luck.
-Brett

KNIVEZS November 20th, 2008 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saint (Post 864435)
Are you in Canada? If you are, read the links Tokyo Seven posted. It'll help you.

.

lol

Kuro_Neko November 20th, 2008 20:05

There are so many threads just like this one already. Try using the search function at the top of the page as well as reading the faqs, it will save you alot of abuse.

When I started I did extensive research and settled on the Tactical Carbine version of the Classic Army M15A4 as my first gun. In my opinion it's the best of all the possible Armalite versions. You have the shortened M4 carbine barrel, which makes you less likely to smack your barrel off something when turning quickly, combined with the full stock which houses a large battery. Small batteries don't have near the run time of a large battery, not to mention that the reinforced slip ring (the ring that keeps the fore-grip on) is really stong. While this is mostly a good thing and a big step up over CA's previous M15 versions, it makes changing small batteries in the field very difficult if not impossible.

Classic Army's M15A4 series in general is a big step up over their previous versions and as far as stock armalites go they're probably the best. All metal where the real steel version is, the plastic parts where the real steal version is plastic are made of good quality. CA has a deal with Armalite so you get all the proper markings. Plus that deal also goes to show the quality of the manufacture, Armalite wouldn't put their name on a shoddy product.

Internally the gearbox is reinforced metal and all the gears are metal as well. It fires hotter stock then TM's as well, firing at 300-320 fps where your average TM only fires 280-300 fps.

All in all this is a great starter gun if you can afford it. Because it's all metal you don't have to worry nearly as much about breaking it and you won't get any of the wobble that is infamous in stock TM M4/M16's. Unfortunately affording it is the biggest problem, they're not cheap.

To give you an idea of cost (once you get age verified) I got my CA M15A4 from the classifieds, upgraded with a bunch of Systema internals to fire 390fps, for $600 shipped which was a great deal.

Kuro_Neko

The Saint November 20th, 2008 20:05

Sorry Knivez, force of habit.

Bowers November 20th, 2008 20:10

jesus joseph and doggystyle mary! this is the first new guy ive seen with a budget over 200 bucks!

its a christmas miracle:D lol (in november too!)

also with that kinda cash you should have no problem getting into this sport

Forever_kaos November 20th, 2008 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCSF-Bowers (Post 864447)
jesus joseph and doggystyle mary! this is the first new guy ive seen with a budget over 200 bucks!

its a christmas miracle:D lol (in november too!)

Yeah.
It makes me wonder a few things.
Either they did not want flame so they threw in the extra zero, or this is early Christmas for ASC O_o

TokyoSeven November 20th, 2008 20:14

Welcome new user.

Next time please use a little more thought into the title of your thread. Something a little more descriptive than just Help!!!

Please take the time to fill in your profile, where you’re from, your birthday etc.
This forum holds a lot of information. Please keep in mind before starting a new thread, that there maybe an existing one already. Near the upper right hand corner next to the quick links and log out tab is the search tab. With that you can attempt to see if there is a thread on the topic, don’t get discouraged if you don’t find something right away, change up your search words as well, the search system doesn’t just find tittles it looks for word matches in the content as well.

Unfortunelty for your budget of $250.00 Canadian, you may not be able to aquire what you desire in Canada due to the way Canadian law works in regards to airsoft.

Heres a little reading Id like you to have a look at.
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=51609
It will shed a little light on airsoft in Canada in general.

Now as for airsoft in Canada, just as a general consensus this website and the majority of its members follow the 18 years of age rule. Meaning that it is recommended that a person be the age of 18 before they acquire their first gun. It is recommended because 18 is the recognized age where a person can be held legally responsible for their actions. Now it may not be illegal in all provinces to own airsoft, but I do believe there is a province out there where there is an actual law stating that one must be 18 to purchase. Which one that is, I cannot remember. Hopefully someone can perk up and jump in on that part. The majority of fields used for airsoft play usually require that a person be 18 years of age as well, although I have heard of fields where there have been players as young as 16, with parental consent.
I would like to take a moment to touch on maturity. I find people of all ages quote maturity, unfortunately stating maturity is irrelevant when it comes to airsoft, for the most part at least. There have been people as old as 40 and up who have acted like they were 12. I have already stated why the age of 18 was chosen. Now from time to time I hear people who are underage say that they have grown up with firearms all their life and they hunt and everything etc. If this applies to you then you should pay attention to this, if not you should read it and take it to heart anyways. So you have hunted for a long time? Been around guns since you were little? Well good you should have a firm grasp of trigger and muzzle control then. Now unfortunately regardless how much experience you have with fire arms you can not use it as a bargaining chip to skirt around what has been set as a rule among this community.
In my personal opinion an airsoft gun is not a fire arm; however that’s my personal opinion. For me, an airsoft gun only looks like a fire arm but that’s where I draw the line in comparisons. They do not function the same, sure relations can be made but they still are not the same. Now although I may not consider an airsoft gun a fire arm, authorities will in most instances. If you get caught doing something stupid with an airsoft gun you will be charged as if you are committing an offence with a real fire arm. If you are under the age of 18, the damage falls onto your legal guardians, so the shit really hits the fan. If you’re 18 and over at least you can be held responsible for being stupid. That’s the jist of it, accept it or don’t.

This website has a process called age verification, where if you are 18 or older you can meet with a volunteer representative of this website who will meet with you in person, there is no way around this, no phone, no webcam, in person only, where they will require to see a legitimate piece of photo identification. After the process is completed, it can take sometime as this is all volunteer work, you will be granted access to this websites buy and sell section, where you can find both new and used guns, for fair and competitive prices. Although its not always the case, it is sort of an open market. With Age verification comes access to Canadian online retailer known as shootsoft. You will only be able to access and buy their inventory with ASC age verification

Even though your budget limits you, $250, is still a decent number to start off with, it can be used to buy a low end quality starter gun that can be upgraded or it can be tucked away and saved and grown to buy something else.

Today’s airsoft guns are nothing more than a motor driven gear set that cranks back a piston which is then released to push and compress air in a cylinder which is then directed out the nozzle to propel the BB down the barrel. How you want it to look is up to you.

As an addendum to that statement you may wish to consider a few of the following points.

1. Cost, is the airsoft gun you desire in your price range? Is it in your price range in the future if you save. Is it the brand you want? Its not just about the looks of the gun, each and every company has their own little take and twist. An example of this is that ICS M4 have a different threading on the upper receiver than that of say a Classic Army M4. Taking that into consideration you would be limited to front ends made specifically for ICS guns if you choose to change out your front end eventually. Unless however you choose to purchase a rethreading tool to change the threading of your upper receiver. Which brings me to my next point.

2. Cost + availability or parts and your own ability to do upgrades. So you have chosen your airsoft gun. Now you want to do some modifications and upgrades. Do you know what you’re looking for in terms of compatible parts? Do you know where to acquire them easily and do you have the know how to do the work yourself or are in a situation where you know someone who can do it for you. If your not mechanically inclined and do not have access to an airsoft gun doc, I would recommend that you purchase something that has already been preupgraded or at least something that has already had the standard preventative maintenance performed on it be it used or new. Preventative upgrades are simple upgrades that will keep the airsoft gun running longer (maybe not forever but defiantly longer). Most airsoft guns come with nylon bushings; the bushings are what help hold the gears in the mechbox. Most people believe that under heavy stress they bushings can melt and warp, it is recommended that they be replaced with metal bushings. Another example of a preventative maintenance upgrade would be a spring guide. A tokyo marui M4 comes with its stock plastic TM V2 spring guide, while this maybe all fine and dandy for the time being with its stock spring, attempting to run a spring with to high a strength rating may cause that spring guide to break. Over time even with its stock spring the spring guide can weaken. It is suggested that this be an item that you do replace if performing preventative maintenance, usually with something along the lines of a bearing spring guide.

3. Is it available in Canada through one of our retailers. It’s a well known fact that attempting to import an airsoft gun from outside of Canada is equal to that of tossing your money in the toilet, lighting the toilet on fire and then pushing it out of the back of a moving school bus. It maybe have seemed like a good idea at the time, but now you are out a bunch of money and you also ruined a perfectly good toilet.

4. Magazines, you have your airsoft gun and you only have one magazine well that’s all fine and dandy but I’m certain there may come a day where you will require more than one magazine. You may wish to look into the different brands and manufactures out there to see what is compatible with what and how much it costs.

5. Other. You may wish to consider cost and availability of other items you may want in the future and their availability. For example lets say you bought some form of armalite variant and wanted to go the SR 47 look. Well unfortunately at this time do the Canadian law you would be unable to bring the parts in required since they are prohibited, even if it were possible it is en extremely rare mod to find and even more expensive to buy. Another example would be an under barrel grenade launcher. Hope you can someone in Canada because importing is a no no. Other things you may wish to consider are the cost of a sling, maybe some gear and optics.

In closing, I guess buying an airsoft gun is more than just how you want it to look, its a commitment to an investment. So choose wisely.

Gun reviews can be found all over the internet, regardless which search engine you use, a different combination of search words can yield different searches. Let me keep it short and sweet, for the bulk of it, AEGS are simple motors that drive pistons that compress a spring to expel air to propel a BB down a barrel. How you want that set up to look is up to you. There are many brands of companies out there that make airsoft guns, how much you pay maybe relevant to the quality you receive.

Finally this website also has a FAQ section that holds some useful info, it may not be entirely up to date, but I suggest you poke around in there as well. You may find something handy.

Styrak November 20th, 2008 20:20

Tokyo, he said $2500 now.

Although that may be a lie, who knows.

TokyoSeven November 20th, 2008 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 864456)
Tokyo, he said $2500 now.

Although that may be a lie, who knows.

With a budget of $2500, many more options become available.
Regardless of budget though my intial post still stands in regards to infomation.


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