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KEVORKIAN September 9th, 2009 23:29

Wetti Awss Scar
 
My latest addition to collection:

WETTI AWSS SCAR
- Propane/CO2 version

***WE PMAG conversion has been completed***

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c.../WESCAR029.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c.../WESCAR003.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c.../WESCAR020.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c.../WESCAR007.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c.../WESCAR013.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c.../WESCAR015.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c.../WESCAR016.jpg

RacingManiac September 9th, 2009 23:58

Black one....looks sweet...

I'll wait and see on the VFC ones.....maybe with the DMR version....

Brodie_BHD September 10th, 2009 12:07

Looking good! Im still waiting on mine to show up.... :(

Amos September 10th, 2009 12:16

Hey Kev... any chance you can get me a good picture of places where these things could use a thin recoil bumper?

KEVORKIAN September 10th, 2009 12:30

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Originally Posted by Amos (Post 1062423)
Hey Kev... any chance you can get me a good picture of places where these things could use a thin recoil bumper?

Right here:http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...=88542&page=13

m102404 September 10th, 2009 12:56

Sweet...it's about the only rifle that I like seeing in its tan version.

I haven't handled a lot of AEG SCARS...if you have, is the stock less bulbous-"dolphin-tail" like than the AEG versions?

If you turn your lower receiver upside down...does the bolt release lever&housing fall out? Griffin and I were test fitting mags into his just his lower and couldn't figure out why the engagement angles between the nub on the mag and the bottom of the lever arm...then we noticed that the assembly had be pushed up out of position.

Really liking the simplicity of the whole thing. Can't wait to see the WE KAC PDW GBBR...so far the prototypes of the bolt assembly looks more SCAR-ish than M4-ish.

Tys

KEVORKIAN September 10th, 2009 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by m102404 (Post 1062448)
If you turn your lower receiver upside down...does the bolt release lever&housing fall out? Griffin and I were test fitting mags into his just his lower and couldn't figure out why the engagement angles between the nub on the mag and the bottom of the lever arm...then we noticed that the assembly had be pushed up out of position.

Tys

Nope!

KEVORKIAN September 10th, 2009 18:25

WE SCAR
Here is what I think is causing all the broken stock hinge plates (part #66):
***NO...mine has NOT broken!***

This is the plastic stock hinge plate (#66)
- notice the faint vertical lines to the left & right...this is where the recoil rod assembly slams into when the gun is fired.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c.../WESCAR036.jpg

This is the end of the recoil rod assembly. It sits flush with the end of the receiver so the plastic stock hinge plate can slide over. I know some guys are saying to put a piece of rubber/neoprene between the end of the rod to act as a buffer but I think it would only be a temporary fix!
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c.../WESCAR031.jpg

Upper receiver: Here you can see the bolt (#53) on the left and the recoil spring/rod assembly on the right. Just from my first few shots I knew right away that this guns recoil is way too hard. There is way too much "metal on metal" when it recoils. I believe that the recoil spring is too weak and the bolt is too heavy = BROKEN STOCK HINGE PLATE (#66)
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c.../WESCAR030.jpg

Bolt (#53) & recoil rod & spring assembly: Somehow a buffer needs to be installed between these two parts. This would lessen the shock transferred to the hinge plate. A CNC metal hinge plate would solve this problem and I'm sure it's just a matter of time before that happens!
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c.../WESCAR033.jpg

Bolt (#53) - This is the face of the bolt where it slams into the recoil rod...this thing is HEAVY!
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c.../WESCAR034.jpg

Brodie_BHD September 16th, 2009 22:14

Guess what came in the mail today!

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6325/img4158i.jpg

WETTI AWSS SCAR-L TAN

Added a Hurricane 553 in tan and a Tango down stubby QD grip.

KEVORKIAN September 16th, 2009 22:16

Very nice, Bro !

Gunny_McSmith September 17th, 2009 08:34

wich type of pistol grip would fit on those GBBr? RS or AEG pistol grip....?

PS: I read you were working on a PMag conversion.... there's a guy on Gasgun info that already dide it, and shows how to do it.... ;)

http://gasguns.info/forum/viewtopic....=1435&start=20

KEVORKIAN September 17th, 2009 08:52

RS M4 grips fit the WE SCAR just fine. You can see from my pics above that I have the Hogue Monogrip AR-15 grip on it and she fits like a glove!

PMags are much easier to mod for the WE mags than for the Systema PTW...

Gunny_McSmith September 17th, 2009 09:38

cool thx!

you were complaining about the bolt beeing too heavy on the WE Scar,.... and guess what I just found on WGC, a Bomber brand CNC aluminium bolt for the Scar!

rustysniper October 9th, 2009 14:03

Got mine yesterday in black. Very nice. FPS is kind of low compared to my WE M4 which is way hot! (560-70 fps)
But RA has their adjustable valve sets which will fix both!

GBB rule! (well sort of lol)

KEVORKIAN October 12th, 2009 11:47

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c.../WESCAR045.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c.../WESCAR049.jpg

theshaneler October 12th, 2009 12:08

hey kev have i told you that i hate you with a passion :p j/k

that is one sexy piece of hardware!

KEVORKIAN October 12th, 2009 12:11

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Originally Posted by theshaneler (Post 1082216)
hey kev have i told you that i hate you with a passion :p j/k

that is one sexy piece of hardware!

You're the only reason I posted these pics anyways...I know you love the tan man! LOL

FOX_111 October 12th, 2009 16:27

Those rifles are sexy!
I can't wait to see how good they perform in the long run and in low temperature.

Bonjour43ma October 12th, 2009 16:32

woot is this the master thread for all SCARs? Can't believe I didn't see it before starting my own.

Here's mine so far...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/...8e087805_o.jpg

have gone through about 10~15 mags so far... all components still look brand new. :)

I'm getting about 2 ~ 2.5 mags worth of shooting per gas fill - not too bad at all!

rustysniper October 12th, 2009 16:53

I had a similar experience with mag fills. About 2-1 fro fills. Also, I made a small "sorbo-pad" for the recoil plate which seems to dampen the shock on the hinge plate. Hopefully this will help lessen the chance of a broken hinge plate.

I will keep you posted.....

Bonjour43ma October 12th, 2009 18:56

^^^ can you take a picture of said pad, please? Just curious to see what it looks like.

The problem with the broken/cracked hinge plate seems to happen mostly to people that run CO2 mags. Green Gas/propane people don't seem to have that issue...

Thenooblord October 12th, 2009 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonjour43ma (Post 1082391)
^^^ can you take a picture of said pad, please? Just curious to see what it looks like.

The problem with the broken/cracked hinge plate seems to happen mostly to people that run CO2 mags. Green Gas/propane people don't seem to have that issue...

I made a pad out of cut up rubber bands, I used the wide ones in two layers and two rows, works like a charm

808 October 21st, 2009 01:36

I can't believe I missed this.

I saw your post in the GGI forums, and I'm jealous. LOL


Great work man - I'll have to try and get some off you one day!


Btw - what did you use to sand/file out the inside of the PMAG? Just a regular old file?

KEVORKIAN October 21st, 2009 22:11

A PMag master does not tell any of his secrets...:p
I'll be at XT starting in November when Terror Tuesdays begin...I will show you in person if you're around.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...M4PMags025.jpg

m102404 October 21st, 2009 22:13

That's so sweet.

My mailbox still has lots of rooms for PMs if you're ever bored and want to jot down some how-to notes...:D

Shirley October 24th, 2009 03:43

WE internals won't fit into the PTS PMAGs?

KEVORKIAN October 24th, 2009 09:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman (Post 1090918)
WE internals won't fit into the PTS PMAGs?

I have never seen one up close for a comparison...but from the pics I've seen of a PTS PMag it looks like it would not work because of the height at which the mag catch would engage, it's too close to the top of the mag!

Cilantro October 24th, 2009 12:26

Now how do the converted PMAGs perform in terms of consumption and cool down of the gas? Is there any real difference in FPS or how many shots before needing a refill?

KEVORKIAN October 24th, 2009 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cilantro (Post 1091014)
Now how do the converted PMAGs perform in terms of consumption and cool down of the gas? Is there any real difference in FPS or how many shots before needing a refill?

It is purely cosmetic...then again I haven't done any real testing with them! I doubt there would be any gain/loss with them compared to the old WE mag shell.

808 October 24th, 2009 20:49

I want some of these sooo bad.

I just wish my SCAR had a trigger. LOL

KEVORKIAN October 25th, 2009 22:47

I must say these Co2 mags kick like a son-of-a-gun!
Getting them to fit the PMags correctly requires the use of a dremel...fits like a glove!

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...M4PMags033.jpg

KEVORKIAN November 7th, 2009 20:55

I decided to do some testing with my WE SCAR this evening since the Leafs game is boring...they're actually winning!

I finally installed my RA-Tech NPAS with the LAT piston head (installed on stock nozzle guide rod).
Shots were very consistent, and within +/-4 FPS of each other.
The RA-Tech NPAS dialed in nicely but it's a little hard to adjust with the tool and it requires you to hold back the valve disc with a small flathead screwdriver.

RA-Tech NPAS:
http://www.ratech.com.tw/store/img/p/268-360-large.jpg

LAT piston head:
http://www.airsoftbuddy.com/member/5...7_IMG_0117.JPG


NPAS installation & testing by RA-Tech:

YouTube- RA TECH WE NPAS

I also tried the LAT SS mag valve and it did increase velocity by +15-20 FPS.
Where it failed was when it was tested on full auto, it dumped a lot a gas and the ROF actually seemed to slow down compared to the stock valve.
This may be a part that someone might consider using if building a sniper platform, so long as it's used in semi-auto only!

http://www.airsoftbuddy.com/member/5...4_IMG_0215.JPG

Zulu November 10th, 2009 15:22

Ok guys, I recently installed the TSC NPAS which broke after 10 rds. I ended up taking the adjustment wheel from the tsc and used it on the stock guide rod. Avoid it like the plague for now. I am awaiting a response from them but have heard nothing yet.

m102404 November 10th, 2009 15:25

What part of the TCS setup broke? The nozzle? The valve? The rod/piston? The Adjustment wheel?

They're nozzles are Stainless Steel aren't they? Did it crumple with a misfeed?

KEVORKIAN November 10th, 2009 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zulu (Post 1102121)
Ok guys, I recently installed the TSC NPAS which broke after 10 rds. I ended up taking the adjustment wheel from the tsc and used it on the stock guide rod. Avoid it like the plague for now. I am awaiting a response from them but have heard nothing yet.

Are you referring to this part:
http://www.popularairsoft.com/files/...C0018-AG-2.jpg

Zulu November 11th, 2009 15:09

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Originally Posted by m102404 (Post 1102124)
What part of the TCS setup broke? The nozzle? The valve? The rod/piston? The Adjustment wheel?

They're nozzles are Stainless Steel aren't they? Did it crumple with a misfeed?

The pic kevorkian just put up is it. On the v1's the end piece of the guide rod (opposite the adjustment wheel) is basically a round threaded nut that appears to be held in place by a very craptastic weld. From further research this issue has been corrected in the new version. Tokyo model company did not list the version and I got stuck with a v1. Make sure the one you order is ts-13B. The guide rod does not come with a new nozzle.


I also just got in the VFC EGLM and it's very nice. WGC had them for 126.00 (155.00 shipped to VA). Very well constructed and half the price of the Ares.

Now if I can just figure out why I keep chopping bb's.....

Shirley November 11th, 2009 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zulu (Post 1102724)
The pic kevorkian just put up is it. On the v1's the end piece of the guide rod (opposite the adjustment wheel) is basically a round threaded nut that appears to be held in place by a very craptastic weld. From further research this issue has been corrected in the new version. Tokyo model company did not list the version and I got stuck with a v1. Make sure the one you order is ts-13B. The guide rod does not come with a new nozzle.


I also just got in the VFC EGLM and it's very nice. WGC had them for 126.00 (155.00 shipped to VA). Very well constructed and half the price of the Ares.

Now if I can just figure out why I keep chopping bb's.....

You modded a PMAG too?
What bb's are you using? First V1's hop-ups are shit.. lol

Zulu November 11th, 2009 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman (Post 1102792)
You modded a PMAG too?
What bb's are you using? First V1's hop-ups are shit.. lol


Hitman,
So far I have modded 4 WE to pmag and assisted my boss as he's modded some for his PTW. (PTW mags don't require as much sanding )

As far as ammo I've tried TSD bio & non bio, KSC and some Bioval.
The gun itself is a gen III so no gen I hop-up.

As soon as I can dial in the gun we will probably start carrying them. (We as in my employer www.airsoftcqb.com)

Zulu November 27th, 2009 13:47

Got the RA Tech NPAS and it is so much better than the TSC fiasco. +1 to the Folks at RA !

sortie39 November 28th, 2009 05:41

whats the name of the grid pad?where did u get that??

KEVORKIAN November 28th, 2009 08:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie39 (Post 1112616)
whats the name of the grid pad?where did u get that??

It's made by OLFA (36" x 24") and I purchased it from an arts & craft store here in Winnipeg called " Michaels' "
LINK: http://www.michaels.com/art/online/s...0&y=0&as_fid=1

BIG December 22nd, 2009 20:42

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Hey guys,

What do you think about that color patern?

I bought a used tan SCAR but I wanted a black one. Now I don't want to paint it all black because I don't want to loose the markings.

Thenooblord December 22nd, 2009 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG (Post 1128911)
Hey guys,

What do you think about that color patern?

I bought a used tan SCAR but I wanted a black one. Now I don't want to paint it all black because I don't want to loose the markings.

but...but....but.... tan is so much sexier than black....

KEVORKIAN December 22nd, 2009 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG (Post 1128911)
Hey guys,

What do you think about that color pattern?

I like it!
I just might have to do that to mine!

BIG December 22nd, 2009 20:57

hey! If you have a black one, we could switch parts!!!

:)

KEVORKIAN December 22nd, 2009 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG (Post 1128927)
hey! If you have a black one, we could switch parts!!!

:)

I have both...Sorry!

BIG December 22nd, 2009 21:12

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ha ha! got me there!

This one is very nice also...

rustysniper December 22nd, 2009 21:18

Hey BIG...while that is a very nice SCAR...it is not a WE....no one makes a short GBB mag for them yet..so.....

Thenooblord December 22nd, 2009 21:21

and its got the fat stock

BIG December 22nd, 2009 21:28

probably a real steel then. But might be doable in airsoft version. minus the short mag of course :)

KoolAidMan December 22nd, 2009 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG (Post 1128911)
Hey guys,

What do you think about that color patern?

I bought a used tan SCAR but I wanted a black one. Now I don't want to paint it all black because I don't want to loose the markings.

Contact pusangani he has the lowers you can just get a spare lower : )

ToRN July 5th, 2010 10:30

The lower isn't the problem, that one's black, he wants a black upper, but wants to keep the trades.

KSKcarter July 28th, 2010 03:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodie_BHD (Post 1066575)
Guess what came in the mail today!

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6325/img4158i.jpg

WETTI AWSS SCAR-L TAN

Added a Hurricane 553 in tan and a Tango down stubby QD grip.

I like your choice in grip sir

Vee December 19th, 2010 12:19

Bringing this thread back from the dead only because I got my SCAR last week. Nothing done to it yet other than a Magpul AFG.

http://justwhitepants.com/photos/scar-2.jpg

http://justwhitepants.com/photos/scar-6.jpg

http://justwhitepants.com/photos/scar-7.jpg

http://justwhitepants.com/photos/scar-9.jpg

http://justwhitepants.com/photos/scar-10.jpg

http://justwhitepants.com/photos/scar-5.jpg

kalnaren December 19th, 2010 18:23

Mine's in the mail. Can't wait to get it. The SCAR is about the only rifle I like in tan.


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