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Old January 11th, 2010, 12:24   #12
Brian McIlmoyle
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I'm not sure how broken car windows is "unfounded", Brian. We have that as a factual event. All we've gotten so far in response to it is spindoctoring from Bioval, so I do believe testing is necessary.

I mean here's the community that went ballistic over a video of a few kids trespassing in an abandoned facility: for their irresponsible actions and potential for giving the sport a bad image they got a lifelong ban, calls for their AV status to be revoked and some wanted to turn their identities over to law enforcement. Yet here we have BBs that were shown to have caused serious damage at one event, were tested and shown to be dangerous by at least one source, they could potentiality cause more injuries than regular BBs, yet only a handful of people here seem to think its irresponsible to allow these on fields without proper testing and in fact most people seem quite cavalier about it as long as they gain some small edge in range or accuracy.

If they're so safe, why is it so hard to get someone to do proper unbiased testing? (Pus seems on the right track, but needs >350fps guns)
The whole "car window" thing is immaterial... so what? If they don't damage ballistic rated goggles then who cares if they will break a car window?

Any BB will break glass if it is heavy enough and going fast enough.

the muzzle energy is the same for any projectile of similar weight at similar velocity regardless of their material.

They could be Adamantite or Kryptonite it would not change a thing.

Personally I have no issues with these BBs other than you can't see the damn things on the floor!!

And if we were shotting steel targets.. I may be concerned about the shatter issues.. but we have the same issues with plastic shooting steel targets .. little sharp shards...
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