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Originally Posted by Devious Sinner
yet on the other hand, i see retailers bring in "lower" (again, term used very lightly) brand quality guns in, like Dboys, CYMA, JG...etc etc and it always sells and always in demand
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I'll just chime in here and say that the 3 brands you have described are more like todays mid-range. The low-end is solidly-occupied by the likes of APS and JM and other oddball brands. You also have to leave room for the super low end, like the walmart guns and such.
I have worked extensively on examples from each brand and they're more than adequate for me as a tech to turn into tough, high performance AEGs. Hang around on Airsoft Mechanics or YouTube for long enough and you'll find hundreds of examples of people who buy CYMA and JG guns for next to nothing, rework and upgrade them, and turn them into monstrous firehoses that can handle high workloads, high rates of fire, and last through winter play.
Both brands occupy mid-range "positions of excellence" in different categories.
JG for example makes one of the highest torque, low heat, low noise neo motors in airsoft, the JG Blue, and it often sells for 30 to 40 bucks.
CYMA's version 3 gearboxes are considered to be very tough and easy to upgrade, especially for the prices their guns sell at. Many of the CYMAs I have looked at come with high torque neo motors, while every King Arms and most VFCs I've upgraded from stock came with weakass ferrite motors. Many of their AKs come with real wood and can be weathered-down to look very nice indeed.
I dont' have too much to say about DBoys quality, but in my stable I do have the DBoys knockoff of the VFC KAC PDW, and there's absolutely nothing stopping anyone from installing MOSFETs, high speed gears, R-Hop, fat wires, and turning this thing into an absolute beast. Mine runs at 400fps at over 35rps reliably and is as accurate as I'd ever want it to be. I got it for a steal, and my team mates love to borrow it when their guns go down or they want to try something new.
On the other hand, I've gotten the impression that the high end brands tend to do the absolute minimum possible to qualify as high end product. G&P installs defective gears, KA puts in weak motors, VFC puts in crappy transparent pistons and cheesy "self-shimming" gears that are noisy as a banshee (seriously, is Taiwanese labour so expensive that they can't get a guy to take 10 minutes to shim these things normally on their way out of the workshop?), etc. And not a SINGLE one of these so-called high end brands put MOSFETs into their guns or even attempt to correct angle of engagement (AoE) out of the factory, and yet somehow magically we're supposed to believe they're LiPo-ready (KWA is the biggest offender here). Given that those two upgrades are the absolute core of "LiPo-readiness", what up with that?
TL;DR: JG, CYMA, and to a lesser extent DBoys deliver some amazing value and for a lot of players it's extremely easy to turn them guns that exceed the power and reliability of any stock high end gun.