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Old December 13th, 2012, 17:17   #8
ShelledPants
 
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Originally Posted by bobotea View Post
Yes i understand and i would not like to encourage use of the device if it could lead to injury, i was simply expressing my personal opinion. I do not know where you are retrieving your facts on
the DBAL I2 but on the LDI website it clearly states <5mw laser... I understand your sincerity but next time ShelledPants if you want to express yourself you DO NOT need to portray yourself in such a brash condecending fashion, i am an adult and am here to have a intelligent discussion on the use of this device and am NOT here to have an ego bash with you...


"Green Visible Pointer (<5mW) with IR Pointer* (<5mW)"
http://www.laserdevices.com/index.cfm/p-DBAL_I2_163.htm


When you buy an LDI Laser, feel free to use it, I love mine.

G&P Lasers are not LDI, no matter how close they represent their product, and are not to spec regardless of their printed material.

LDI has a lovely website, and lots of products, the one you've presented is available.

The one I presented, is not listed, because LDI doesn't advertise many of the products for sale to Civilians. My presented specs are the eye safe variant found on the TNVC website. It is a class 1 laser and safe for training (or airsoft, your choice).

Here is a link:
http://tnvc.com/shop/ldi-dbal-i2-class-1-ir-laser/

Also, here are the more dangerous Law Enforcement and Mil Lasers with lightsaber mode:
http://tnvc.com/shop/ldi-dbal-i2-high-power-laser/
http://tnvc.com/shop/laser-devices-inc-dbal-i2/

I hope that answers your questions.

I made my previous point very blunt, because you are endorsing the use of an undocumented laser for use in a sport which can injure someone from a very large distance, in a published review on a high traffic website, and I wanted to nip that idea in the bud. I shoot at night. I like my eyes.

Can I lastly direct your attention to the picture attached to all of the DBAL's you've listed. It's on the right hand side and will expand when you click it.



And because I'm no expert in lasers, I'm doing some research while typing. Wikipedia is not the best source, but here's some light reading for you.

As found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_safety#Class_IIIb
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Class IIIb
Lasers in this class may cause damage if the beam enters the eye directly. This generally applies to lasers powered from 5–200 mW. Lasers in this category can cause permanent eye damage with exposures of 1/100th of a second or less depending on the strength of the laser. A diffuse reflection is generally not hazardous but specular reflections can be just as dangerous as direct exposures. Protective eyewear is recommended when direct beam viewing of Class IIIb lasers may occur. Lasers at the high power end of this class may also present a fire hazard and can lightly burn skin. Many laser pointers at this output level are now available in this category.
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Last edited by ShelledPants; December 13th, 2012 at 17:22.. Reason: typo; added quote for reference; Added burn.
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