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Brandon_Lam · March 13th, 2014, 12:07

There are currently multiple problems that I am having with this gun, the place that I got it from will not refund/exchange it as it had been over 14 days until this problem happened (I'm new to airsoft and barely used the beforehand but a policy is a policy) so fixing the gun is the only option.

1) The first time a problem occurred was a week after I got the gun. I was shooting it outside on semi (the only mode I had ever used on the gun (not once switching to fully automatic AT ALL since the time of purchase) when all of a sudden the gun started firing fully automatic, and it wouldn't stop. I checked to see if anything had changed but everything seemed to be the same, and after about 30 seconds of going off fully automatic (trigger was not stuck, etc) it finally stopped and went silent, I shot a couple rounds after that and back to semi it went. I was using the battery that came with it at the time and decided to try out the newer, higher powered one that I bought from the same store and everything seemed to be fine for the next week of 10-15 minute shooting sessions in the backyard (I did this because the last gun I got from the store a CYMA M14 completely stopped working 1.5 weeks after I had bought the gun, and this was the replacement and I didn't want to deal with the same problems if I went to a game) until the next problem came.

2) I was playing at ultimate airsoft for atleast 3 hours with no problems whatsoever, everything was going great. During one of the breaks in between games I decided to shoot my gun fully automatic for once, since I never tried it out on this gun and RIGHT AWAY there were issues. The gun make a crunching noise and the shots did not come out like fully automatic WHATSOEVER. Instead, they were delayed at irregular intervals. I went back to semi automatic right after that because I did not want to cause more harm, and it seemed to work fine at the time so I kept playing, a round later the entire thing came falling apart. Every single shot I did on semi made a crunching noise and was delayed a good 0.2-0.4 seconds before exiting the barrel, sometimes it would shoot once and make the sound, then not shoot again. Right away I got off the field to ask the manager if he knew what was wrong, they tried a few different batteries and the problem persisted, the day was done.

3) I didn't touch the gun for a few days following the issue but after a week I finally tried it out again, after 10 shots the semi automatic gun went fully automatic again. The store that I got it from (Toronto Airsoft) had been closed for a move for well over a month, so bringing it in to get it looked at wasn't an option, and when I finally did yesterday they tried it out and it seemed fine. Not wanting to pay at least $80+ extra for a gun that I had only used once, I decided against waiting an entire month for them to fix it, as they were short on technical staff and decided to just try it out until it messes up again, a day after. Now the gun is getting stuck in fully automatic randomly while shooting on semi, AS WELL as making crunching sounds and not shooting/delayed shots VERY FREQUENTLY the last time I tried, which was 5 minutes ago.

TL;DR: Echo 1 M14 is making CRUNCHING NOISES that either delay the response on when I shot or skip the registered trigger being pulled down altogether, as well as going FULL AUTOMATIC at random without a way to stop it for 30 seconds everytime

*EDIT* : This is a stock gun from Toronto Airsoft, which when I went in yesterday told me all of their guns had to shoot over 366 to enter the country, and the airsoft manual itself said I would be around 380 with the ECHO 1 M14, however the speed checker thing at ultimate airsoft found that my gun was consistantly shooting 350, or a little below. Just posting this in case this is an important detail

March 13th, 2014, 12:07	#1
Brandon_Lam Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2013	New Echo 1 M14 with MAJOR problems There are currently multiple problems that I am having with this gun, the place that I got it from will not refund/exchange it as it had been over 14 days until this problem happened (I'm new to airsoft and barely used the beforehand but a policy is a policy) so fixing the gun is the only option. 1) The first time a problem occurred was a week after I got the gun. I was shooting it outside on semi (the only mode I had ever used on the gun (not once switching to fully automatic AT ALL since the time of purchase) when all of a sudden the gun started firing fully automatic, and it wouldn't stop. I checked to see if anything had changed but everything seemed to be the same, and after about 30 seconds of going off fully automatic (trigger was not stuck, etc) it finally stopped and went silent, I shot a couple rounds after that and back to semi it went. I was using the battery that came with it at the time and decided to try out the newer, higher powered one that I bought from the same store and everything seemed to be fine for the next week of 10-15 minute shooting sessions in the backyard (I did this because the last gun I got from the store a CYMA M14 completely stopped working 1.5 weeks after I had bought the gun, and this was the replacement and I didn't want to deal with the same problems if I went to a game) until the next problem came. 2) I was playing at ultimate airsoft for atleast 3 hours with no problems whatsoever, everything was going great. During one of the breaks in between games I decided to shoot my gun fully automatic for once, since I never tried it out on this gun and RIGHT AWAY there were issues. The gun make a crunching noise and the shots did not come out like fully automatic WHATSOEVER. Instead, they were delayed at irregular intervals. I went back to semi automatic right after that because I did not want to cause more harm, and it seemed to work fine at the time so I kept playing, a round later the entire thing came falling apart. Every single shot I did on semi made a crunching noise and was delayed a good 0.2-0.4 seconds before exiting the barrel, sometimes it would shoot once and make the sound, then not shoot again. Right away I got off the field to ask the manager if he knew what was wrong, they tried a few different batteries and the problem persisted, the day was done. 3) I didn't touch the gun for a few days following the issue but after a week I finally tried it out again, after 10 shots the semi automatic gun went fully automatic again. The store that I got it from (Toronto Airsoft) had been closed for a move for well over a month, so bringing it in to get it looked at wasn't an option, and when I finally did yesterday they tried it out and it seemed fine. Not wanting to pay at least $80+ extra for a gun that I had only used once, I decided against waiting an entire month for them to fix it, as they were short on technical staff and decided to just try it out until it messes up again, a day after. Now the gun is getting stuck in fully automatic randomly while shooting on semi, AS WELL as making crunching sounds and not shooting/delayed shots VERY FREQUENTLY the last time I tried, which was 5 minutes ago. TL;DR: Echo 1 M14 is making CRUNCHING NOISES that either delay the response on when I shot or skip the registered trigger being pulled down altogether, as well as going FULL AUTOMATIC at random without a way to stop it for 30 seconds everytime EDIT : This is a stock gun from Toronto Airsoft, which when I went in yesterday told me all of their guns had to shoot over 366 to enter the country, and the airsoft manual itself said I would be around 380 with the ECHO 1 M14, however the speed checker thing at ultimate airsoft found that my gun was consistantly shooting 350, or a little below. Just posting this in case this is an important detail Last edited by Brandon_Lam; March 13th, 2014 at 12:10..