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Old June 17th, 2006, 04:05   #20
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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker
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Originally Posted by Jackals
DO not for for the love of god get a promothesus 6.03, they have a nasty habit in jamming in my opinion. 6.04 are ok, but like stalker said, make sure you clean well and often.
Sounds like you have been listening to Apoc. He & I have gotten into heated discussions that all the problems you guys are having with your guns is because you installed a tightbore barrel, even if it weas something in the mechbox that fragged itself. If you do a search on the entire ASC site about tightbores jamming, you will find less than a dozen posts that have those words in it, and all of them speak of the reputation, not of fact (ok, maybe one in what, 5-6 years that ASC has been around?).

I even asked Vondnik about it, he said as long as good ammo is used and the barrel is cleaned once in a while, no jamming occurs. Yet he uses 6.04mm for his AEGs and 6.03mm for his single shot dedicated guns.

BTW, Greg, the thing that makes my info important is because I use a 6.03mm barrel in my M24, and a 6.05mm barrel in my M700. I'm also shooting 1/2" groups at 30ft, and can get BBs through doorways 200+ft away most of the time. An AEG is different, 3" groups satify most at short range, etc. COnsidering that evern with good ammo (roughly 5.93-5.95mm per BB vs. 6.03mm tightbore.........) leaves a 0.10-0.08mm gap between the BB and the inner barrel wall, it's not likely jams will occur unless using REALLY bad ammo. For my M24, no matter what I shoot through it, it comes out the nasty end very nicely. All of the problems I've diagnosed with you guys that have tightbores in your AEGs, I can't confirm a single one to be the result of the 6.03mm tightbore you had me install.

Draw your own conclusions.

***For the thread poster, I'll say this: My MP5 has a stock TM barrel in it, shoots around 360fps, has a clear Guarder hop up sleeve & bucking (50%) installed, and I can get consistant high round (like a full lo-cap) groups in a 2" circle at 30ft unsupported with a couple flyers. Your accuracy isn't that great compared to some guns, but I can say that it's better than I've seen out of a "stock" (430fps) G&P SPR shot on the same range, that gun would be lucky to get CD sized groups at that distance! Of course, 20-30ft distance does mean much in the way of field guns. Gives you a rough idea though. Using 0.25g BBs will increase your accuracy by a lot, more so at longer ranges than 0.20g BBs will.
Thanks for the info... I am using 0.25g BBs, the good ones (made by Airsoft Elite). If it is not that difficult to install (otherwise I have to drive 7 hours or ship it to get installed), I'm putting in my order for a 6.04. I really want good accuracy. It's funny because I played paintball for years, and I had a barrel kit- the barrel had two parts- front and back, and you matched whatever brand paint you were using, to the various front barrel sections you had, and it gave you super good accuracy. I thought an Airsoft gun would shoot as accurate as a real gun out of the box. I spent $300 for that barrel kit, and now I'm doing the same thing in Airsoft... but at least it's only around $100!. Anyway as it is right now, if I were to shoot at an actual cd from 20 ft away, I'd hit the edges of it at best, missing a few times... unless I watched the shots like a tracer, then I could adjust and get them on target, however I don't want to do that, I want to nail it dead center first shot!
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