Scopes

Sniperr · February 23rd, 2011, 21:48

http://cgi.ebay.com/Leapers-5th-Gen-...item5adf11635a

Does anybody own this scope? If so, how does it perform ?

Ross · February 23rd, 2011, 23:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniperr

http://cgi.ebay.com/Leapers-5th-Gen-...item5adf11635a

Does anybody own this scope? If so, how does it perform ?

quick google search

http://www.opticsplanet.com/reviews/...-432mdl3r.html

FOX_111 · February 23rd, 2011, 23:49

You want to mount this on what?

Sniperr · February 24th, 2011, 16:28

On my ICS c-15

Ninja_En_Short · February 24th, 2011, 16:56

They won't send it : r-ITAR-ded law in effect :-(

Sportco · February 24th, 2011, 17:22

This is dangerous advance american military technology... as such... they won't ship!

ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations)

You can probably find a NC star tactical III already landed in Canada if you can't find the leapers...

Ninja_En_Short · February 24th, 2011, 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sportco

This is dangerous advance american military technology...

Please tell me this is sarcasm.

CDN_Stalker · February 24th, 2011, 18:21

Here, take your pic as to which one you want, and buy it. Better to order from within Canada anyways. Here's the list of Leaper's scopes, you can provide your own Kleenex and hand lotion.

http://www.marstar.ca/ac-optics/index-l.shtm

Sniperr · February 24th, 2011, 19:34

Are you sure they dont ship to Canada ?

TokyoSeven · February 24th, 2011, 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniperr

Are you sure they dont ship to Canada ?

If something is ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations) restricted it is against the law for the item to be exported from the USA.

Ninja_En_Short · February 24th, 2011, 19:45

Your only "option" is sending it to US address and resent it with no mention of what's inside the package (change package or something like that).
It's "bad" but I'm starting to wonder when they'll put condoms and dildos under ITAR...

CDN_Stalker · February 24th, 2011, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven

If something is ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations) restricted it is against the law for the item to be exported from the USA.

Actually it's considered to be controlled goods and after much paperwork and legal assurances it will remain controlled goods it can be shipped elsewhere. Case in point, at work we have lots of ITAR stuff, and there are serious restrictions on who can handle and even take a look at some of the items, like top of the line NVGs and the Inertial Measurement Units (the navigation laser ring gyros used on missiles) we use on every aircraft.

Anyways, I see zero reason why that scope the OP posted would be ITAR, but I provided a Canadian link to Leaper scopes sold and some are similar to what he wants. Maybe the flip up scope covers are what turns him on, in which case he can just buy a set from the nearest gun store.

Danke · February 24th, 2011, 20:47

For optics, some are covered by ITAR, & those are tough to export. Ones that aren't ITAR material are covered off by the Commerce Dept. and still need an export license.

So by the rules any rifle scope leaving the USA needs to have it's I's dotted and T's crossed. Even a plinker scope. All the little eBay sellers and the rest run the risk of Big Brother noticing them. That's why folks like Optics Planet just say no.

We're not even going to get into distribution agreements other than to say someone selling a brand in the US, like Leupold perhaps gets in deep do do with their supplier if they ship outside their national borders.

CDN_Stalker · February 24th, 2011, 20:52

Regardless, I posted a link to available in Canada scopes, so don't know why it's still carrying on about ITAR, getting that scope itself into Canada or not, unless eyeballs got glazed for the $20 cheaper pricetag. The OP should check out the link I provided and see if anything there acts as an erection amplifier and get back to us that the thread is worth closing.

Danke · February 24th, 2011, 21:05

Marstar's stock levels are a bit low right now.

Re buying in the US; Optics Planet is quite strict, and they won't even drop ship to a US address for an international customer. Other folks can be more accommodating on drop shipping or even have the paper work to ship across an international boundary line.

As always your mileage may vary; I did talk to Optics Planet on the phone last week and anything I was after wasn't coming out of the vault.

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February 23rd, 2011, 21:48	#1
Sniperr Banned Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2011	Scopes http://cgi.ebay.com/Leapers-5th-Gen-...item5adf11635a Does anybody own this scope? If so, how does it perform ?

February 23rd, 2011, 23:49	#3
FOX_111 Le Roi des poissons d'avril Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Terrebonne, Québec	You want to mount this on what? __________________ Vérificateur d'âge: Terrebonne

February 24th, 2011, 16:56	#5
Ninja_En_Short Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: France, Canada (Montréal)	They won't send it : r-ITAR-ded law in effect :-( __________________ Tous les jours nous nous endormons plus instruits mais pas forcément moins bêtes... I can do a CTRL+ATL+DEL on your gun ! Gun doc in Montreal on AEG, GBB, GBBR and Bolt rifle (gaz and spring) Heavy custom builder (including painting)

February 24th, 2011, 16:28	#4
Sniperr Banned Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2011	On my ICS c-15

February 24th, 2011, 17:22	#6
Sportco would-be wine thief Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St-Hilaire	This is dangerous advance american military technology... as such... they won't ship! ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations) You can probably find a NC star tactical III already landed in Canada if you can't find the leapers... __________________ Level 3 Directory assistance operator Level 1 skapegoat It ain't the years, it's the miles.

February 24th, 2011, 18:21	#8
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	Here, take your pic as to which one you want, and buy it. Better to order from within Canada anyways. Here's the list of Leaper's scopes, you can provide your own Kleenex and hand lotion. http://www.marstar.ca/ac-optics/index-l.shtm __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

February 24th, 2011, 19:34	#9
Sniperr Banned Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2011	Are you sure they dont ship to Canada ?

February 24th, 2011, 19:45	#11
Ninja_En_Short Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: France, Canada (Montréal)	Your only "option" is sending it to US address and resent it with no mention of what's inside the package (change package or something like that). It's "bad" but I'm starting to wonder when they'll put condoms and dildos under ITAR... __________________ Tous les jours nous nous endormons plus instruits mais pas forcément moins bêtes... I can do a CTRL+ATL+DEL on your gun ! Gun doc in Montreal on AEG, GBB, GBBR and Bolt rifle (gaz and spring) Heavy custom builder (including painting)

February 24th, 2011, 20:47	#13
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	For optics, some are covered by ITAR, & those are tough to export. Ones that aren't ITAR material are covered off by the Commerce Dept. and still need an export license. So by the rules any rifle scope leaving the USA needs to have it's I's dotted and T's crossed. Even a plinker scope. All the little eBay sellers and the rest run the risk of Big Brother noticing them. That's why folks like Optics Planet just say no. We're not even going to get into distribution agreements other than to say someone selling a brand in the US, like Leupold perhaps gets in deep do do with their supplier if they ship outside their national borders. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

February 24th, 2011, 20:52	#14
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	Regardless, I posted a link to available in Canada scopes, so don't know why it's still carrying on about ITAR, getting that scope itself into Canada or not, unless eyeballs got glazed for the $20 cheaper pricetag. The OP should check out the link I provided and see if anything there acts as an erection amplifier and get back to us that the thread is worth closing. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

February 24th, 2011, 21:05	#15
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	Marstar's stock levels are a bit low right now. Re buying in the US; Optics Planet is quite strict, and they won't even drop ship to a US address for an international customer. Other folks can be more accommodating on drop shipping or even have the paper work to ship across an international boundary line. As always your mileage may vary; I did talk to Optics Planet on the phone last week and anything I was after wasn't coming out of the vault. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

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