Agm m4 gbbr

[Ronan]

Originally Posted by KEVORKIAN

There is? I've searched everywhere for a link/info...where did you find this?

Suppose to be, people are sayins there's a AGM-GBB-062 (RIS), AGM-GBB-063 (Normal), AGM-GBB-064 (CQB), AGM-GBB-065 (??M16??). It's on a couple forums. I even found chinese websites that sell AGM M16 parts (I found the M16 barrel, M16 flashhider, M16 RIS). I found everything except a full stock so far. So my guess is its coming out very soon if its not aleady out. Even on their AGM paper theirs a M16 version.

[Goldman]

What site were the a2 parts listed on?

[Ronan]

Originally Posted by Goldman

What site were the a2 parts listed on?

I think gunner airsoft or RSOV.

[kullwarrior]

Originally Posted by Goldman

For a M16A4 you would need to find a 20'' Front Kit, G&P makes a nice one, and a full stock. The stock may prove problematic as I'm told the AGM lowers have proprietary threading on the buffer tube, meaning most aftermarket tubes will not mount to the lower, preventing you from using current stock options.

hey look on the bright side atleast you can make a C& design..G&P is really weird on me,
6 months ago I sent two request of stuff they should make include:
TRI-AD
Elcan C79
WA C7A2 recevier
Correct TA31 scope sights (they're using the ACOG sights not the TA31 type)

Only elcan was mentioned twice, few weeks ago they decide to show a read production of a Elcan (does not have marker nor the flat spot on left side normally for trade, better than elken I guess)

So keep an eye out spam G&P mail box maybe some day they'll do a full GBBR C7 kit

[Goldman]

Originally Posted by kullwarrior

hey look on the bright side atleast you can make a C& design..G&P is really weird on me,
6 months ago I sent two request of stuff they should make include:
TRI-AD
Elcan C79
WA C7A2 recevier
Correct TA31 scope sights (they're using the ACOG sights not the TA31 type)

Only elcan was mentioned twice, few weeks ago they decide to show a read production of a Elcan (does not have marker nor the flat spot on left side normally for trade, better than elken I guess)

So keep an eye out spam G&P mail box maybe some day they'll do a full GBBR C7 kit

Triad's are prolly a No-Go. Everyone seems to hate them, and from what I've read/been told by shooters they are for the fail. Besides, after some recent internal changes I wouldn't be suprised to see more KAC kit on CF bits.

[kullwarrior]

don't expect to,

Can someone answer these questions?

For a GBBR why is everyone comparing against WA knowing it is probably a slam dunk win?

Why are you comparing a airsoft gun that is bind up with restriction and expect it to work even though its is against the law for the country which is produce in?

Although people keep comparing WA saying its official version, why aren't people comparing to its export version which is design to use propane? (G&P WOC Western Arms Official Custom)

[Ronan]

WA is the base of GBBR, like TM is for AEG.

Sure its not much to compare too, but its a 'starting point'. G&P is the same as WA, sure it might have some better material used here and there, but its basically a WA full metal.

Also WA GBBR design is the universally accept design, and thats why 85% of the market is oriented toward it. What fits WA fits AGM and fits G&P (95% of the time).

Some WE stuff is available but its poor compared to the WA GBB market. But the WE design is also new, so give it time.

Edit: Also kull, when people talk about 'how is the WE compared to the WA' they can also meant the GBB system they each use and not just the general built of the GBBR.

[baker_Jeff]

I'll note here that the stock tube on my AGM M4 RIS version is 1.14", considered Mil-Spec if you're putting on a real steel stock.

Jeff

[Ronan]

Originally Posted by baker_Jeff

I'll note here that the stock tube on my AGM M4 RIS version is 1.14", considered Mil-Spec if you're putting on a real steel stock.

Jeff

Is it a Gen 1 or Gen 2? My Gen 2 takes milspec stock and certain chinese stocks. G&P 'WA" stock work fine also.

[baker_Jeff]

How can I tell?

[Ronan]

Originally Posted by baker_Jeff

How can I tell?

Is it the one that came with your AGM? If so, does the top of the box have somekind of big white logo toward the left? if so, thats Gen 1.

[baker_Jeff]

The box doesn't have any logos on the left side .

I just swapped flash hiders, and the AGM barrel is -14mm.

Chrono'd at 400-415fps this morning. Yikes!

Jeff

[Ronan]

Originally Posted by baker_Jeff

The box doesn't have any logos on the left side .

I just swapped flash hiders, and the AGM barrel is -14mm.

Chrono'd at 400-415fps this morning. Yikes!

Jeff

Yes it shoots hard

I'm waiting on some ra-tech parts to tune it down lol

[m102404]

Please understand that this is my own opinion and should not be taken as any sort of "final word" on the AGM M4 GBBR. I'm sure there are guys that see this as a cost affordable entryway into GBBR's. I do not feel that I'm "spoiled" by good guns and my expectations were not mis-aligned for this one. I feel that I am calling it like it is.

I posted this to another thread. Note: after sleeping on it for a night...I've decided against spending another minute/dollar on this rifle.

Originally Posted by m102404

I do get the point of upgrading a low end gun and trying to turn it into something decent....I really do. But there are limits.

....these AGM M4 GBBR's are a piece of shit. Sloppy and loose do not even begin describe the overall fit and details of these things.

Even upgraded with extremely nice internals...they're still a lousy build. If you put $200-500 into one of these expecting to turn it into a tight world-beater...you've wasted your money. Maybe...just maybe...if you could strip off the front end, back end, and 90% of the internals...it might be worth a couple of bucks to get the receiver and start a new build from scratch (but even then there's a fair bit of play with the receiver). It's worth $100-150-200...nothing more.

They are certainly a bit less complicated than the WE...but the workings are almost toy-ish. The racking, chambering and "feel" of it is toy-ish. Recoil is ok...but probably because they have a horribly noisy very weak spring in the stock tube. What a twanging racket that thing makes.

Total number of rounds through it before it broke...70. The rear end of the nozzle assembly/body shattered.

The mag's already been stripped, seals soaked and reassembled because it sprung a leak. The fill valve is an utter joke. A mag that weighs .8 of a KG!!! with 9 pins and 9+ parts!?! WTF?!?

The WE AWSS is to the AGM M4 as a TM GBB is to a springer.

DO NOT waste your time nor your money on this model. In the quest to test out new things sometimes you win and sometimes you loose (time and money)....I rolled a snake eyes on this one. I'm going to keep at it to see if there's something that can be done with it...but it's the ugly chick at the gym of the gun rack.

[baker_Jeff]

I am actually quite pleased with mine. I did use it as an entry level to a GBBR. I've dry fired it probably 1000 times, and put about 200 rds through it, with no issues at all. The magazine leaked out of the box, but all it took was some silicone oil to get it working mint. I've spent another $5-600 on upgrades already... but not because I had to.

Mine is tight, solid, and feels great. I fear these may just be hit or miss with the quality. Lucky for me, mine is pretty darn good for what I paid for the thing.

Jeff