Anyone add 45 degree sights for the rail system

[zzzzsleepy8]

Anyone add 45 degree sights on their airsoft? Its so you can mount a large or long range scope on the main rail.

Deciding between 45 degree fixed sights, or 45 degree collapsible popup sights. In the latter case, will probably need to add a 45 degree rail first as the go between.

Should be pretty neat. The 45 degrees angled holding is also a very natural ergonomic posture. Just dont go 90 degrees gangsta style.

[monterto]

I think running either of those would be a waste of time and money.

1) Most targets are going to be outside of your range with a magnified scope

2) With hop-up you need to hold the gun straight on or else your shots are going to curve all over and just be hazard

[beta678]

Originally Posted by zzzzsleepy8

Deciding between 45 degree fixed sights, or 45 degree collapsible popup sights. In the latter case, will probably need to add a 45 degree rail first as the go between.

Maybe just get standalone 45 degree pop-up iron sights? Best of both worlds and you won't need an off-set mount as a go between. KAC & Diamondhead makes some if you want the spend the money for the real steel stuff or you can look around on some airsoft sites or amazon for airsoft ones. There's two sets I know of (unknown china brand) that go for ~$25.

Alternatively, get an offset mount and mount a red dot like a T1 or RMR.

If you're after the look, just go for it but monterto raises valid points regarding functionality.

[ccyg8774]

@Spike uses 45 degree fixed sights on his G&G SR25, which he said works fine and the angled hop-up do not really cause a problem at the distance of using that sight.

I know guy in the US using the unknown china brand, ~$25, 45 degree fixed sights on his real AR-15, he didn't expect it to hold zero after firing, but surprisingly, it did.

[lurkingknight]

I tried it for a while on the range with my g36... 1.25-5x scope and a doctor sight at 45... it looked cool... I didn't think it was worth it. In fact, I don't even run that scope anymore.

[Stealth]

Looks cool - never used it.
I use a 1-4x Accushot scope with a large cat-tail instead.

[CR0M]

Ive thought about it recently...

I like the idea of running a scope mostly to see exactly where my BBs are falling off, and the 45 degree sights for everything else. I just think I might be using them so often that Id be holding the gun weird most of the time. And switching it up the other way seemed too weird to try (regular iron sights, scope on 45 degree)

[Kos-Mos]

I can easily see use for a 3-9x40 scope and 45° RDS.

In fact, that is exactly what I am going for with my XM110 (once it's done).

It's too long to acquire and focus a target under 100ft. with a regular scope.
And at that range, the 15-20° tilt you have on your rifle won't make a large enough difference. (You don't need to tilt the gun 45° to sight a RDS. When it's adjusted, as long as the dot is on target, that's where it's supposed to shoot.)

I personally will go with a 90° mount instead, with a docter sight on it. Easier to adjust the dot when the movement is in line with the axes. It also makes the sight sit tighter against the rifle, and maybe even tuck it "under" the scope profile.

For those that say a scope is useless in airsoft, I hope it's because you almost never play outside. Because it's incredibly useful, mostly for recon however.

[lurkingknight]

nope, I play outside all the time. I found it very bad for tunnelvisioning.. but eye relief was also an issue at times.

As for the secondary site, I had it on top, 45 along the main rail and 90 to the main rail and to the main scope, I couldn't get a zero I was satisfied with.

with the 1.25-5x I had it was better to leave it at 2-3x and run it like that near/short/far distances. 3x was enough to see beyond the reliable range of the gun.

In the end I couldn't justify the weight of the scope vs its benefit. Also, it had a way of scaring noobs into thinking the gun could reach out much farther than it actually could, so it was hard to shoot at people lobbing rounds at you from 400 feet thinking they were remotely close. I found it was better to lure them in closer by letting them (and more experienced players) think we were on more equal grounds.

Your individual mileage may vary, but to assume that it wasn't tried or it was being used outside of suitable play conditions is a bit presumptuous.

[zzzzsleepy8]

I guess you can say the hop-up will mess with aiming at 45 degree angle because gravity usually offsets the moment placed on the BB when it spins in a hop-up. So at 45 degree, it might not go as straight anymore and flies to the side you tilted.

[Kos-Mos]

Originally Posted by zzzzsleepy8

I guess you can say the hop-up will mess with aiming at 45 degree angle because gravity usually offsets the moment placed on the BB when it spins in a hop-up. So at 45 degree, it might not go as straight anymore and flies to the side you tilted.

Yeah. Try that at 100ft and see if you can hit a man-sized target while tiled 45deg...


P.S. if your gun is working OK and your hop-up set properly, you will hit.

[zzzzsleepy8]

Originally Posted by Kos-Mos

Yeah. Try that at 100ft and see if you can hit a man-sized target while tiled 45deg...


P.S. if your gun is working OK and your hop-up set properly, you will hit.

Thats true. Iron sights are probably best for shorter distance anyway. Mostly its just cool, and I find holding 45 degree tilt to be very ergonomic actually.

[graff]

Plus its gangsta

Originally Posted by zzzzsleepy8

Thats true. Iron sights are probably best for shorter distance anyway. Mostly its just cool, and I find holding 45 degree tilt to be very ergonomic actually.

[Spike]

If it's for short distances and you move your head more than the gun then they work, but if you try to go all super-gun-snap-sideways-operator then you're just gonna miss.

If would actually be better to mount them on the left side of the gun (assuming you're a righty) so you can just move your head a bit and look through the sights while keeping the gun upright.